How do you get rid of extra rests appearing in the process of editing? I've tried everything. These appear when I edit a triplet's parameters (change its value). See attached graphic.
Thanks,
Cathy
Extra rests
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Peter Thomsen
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When you are in the Simple Entry Tool, you can select a note by holding down a modifier key while clicking the note.
The modifier key you should hold down, is Ctrl in Windows, Option in Mac.
When a note is selected, you can move the selection to the next entry by hitting the RightArrow key.
When the "extra rest" is selected, you can delete it with the delete key.
The modifier key you should hold down, is Ctrl in Windows, Option in Mac.
When a note is selected, you can move the selection to the next entry by hitting the RightArrow key.
When the "extra rest" is selected, you can delete it with the delete key.
Mac OS X 12.6.9 (Monterey), Finale user since 1996
Thanks for the reply, and I tried what you suggested. It works quite nicely on normal notes and rests (which I hadn't known about), so I'm glad I asked. But it didn't get rid of my rest.
This particular rest was generated spontaneously as a result of editing the triplet immediately to its left. I had originally assigned a value of 1 quarter note to the triplet, and had to go back and correct it to two. It is then that the extra rest appeared, leaving each measure with its full complement of four beats with an extra rest "stuck" to the bar following the triplet. I did re-do the measures, though, assigned the proper triplet value from the start, and that seemed to clear up the problem.
It seems to me that the triplet editing is a bit tenuous. Best to get it done right the first time.
Cathy
This particular rest was generated spontaneously as a result of editing the triplet immediately to its left. I had originally assigned a value of 1 quarter note to the triplet, and had to go back and correct it to two. It is then that the extra rest appeared, leaving each measure with its full complement of four beats with an extra rest "stuck" to the bar following the triplet. I did re-do the measures, though, assigned the proper triplet value from the start, and that seemed to clear up the problem.
It seems to me that the triplet editing is a bit tenuous. Best to get it done right the first time.
Cathy
Another way (in Windows, at least) to get to that rest in Simple Entry would be
(1) Pick a half note from the simple entry pick list. 6 on the Numeric pad works too. 6 above the T and Y keys does not work, as it adds a harmony interval.
(2) superimpose the cursor (which will look like a dim half note) over the half note that is in its proper place to the left of the triplet.
(3) click -- No double, no right, no Alt, no Ctrl, no nothin'. Standard left-click -- on the half note.
This should turn that half note purple, indicating that it is selected.
(4) use right arrow key to move the selection point, object-by-object, to the offending quarter rest.
(5) press the delete key on your editing cluster (presuming a "standard" AT-style keyboard).
(1) Pick a half note from the simple entry pick list. 6 on the Numeric pad works too. 6 above the T and Y keys does not work, as it adds a harmony interval.
(2) superimpose the cursor (which will look like a dim half note) over the half note that is in its proper place to the left of the triplet.
(3) click -- No double, no right, no Alt, no Ctrl, no nothin'. Standard left-click -- on the half note.
This should turn that half note purple, indicating that it is selected.
(4) use right arrow key to move the selection point, object-by-object, to the offending quarter rest.
(5) press the delete key on your editing cluster (presuming a "standard" AT-style keyboard).
-Tom Williams
Finale 26.1, Finale 2012
Finale 26.1, Finale 2012
Thanks, Tom...your method works!
Although I am unable to select it directly and delete, I am able to select notes to the left of it and arrow over to it and delete...strange, but it works!
I really have a lot to learn about this program! I'm sure I could be doing things much more efficiently.
Cathy
Although I am unable to select it directly and delete, I am able to select notes to the left of it and arrow over to it and delete...strange, but it works!
I really have a lot to learn about this program! I'm sure I could be doing things much more efficiently.
Cathy
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miker
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Cathy,
One of the best things you could do is to stop using the tuplet tool! Take a look at the article Tuplets With Simple Entry, at http://www.specialmillwork.com/finale_tips.htm
One of the best things you could do is to stop using the tuplet tool! Take a look at the article Tuplets With Simple Entry, at http://www.specialmillwork.com/finale_tips.htm
Let's call the measure where the half-note and triplets are, "measure 20." So the next one is 21.
The errant rest is considered to be attached to measure 20, although it looks like it is in 21. Selection by mouse apparently only works on objects in the current measure. Since the mouse cursor has to be on measure 21 to get to those rests that are actually part of measure 20, they are unreachable.
Once you select the half note in 20, the arrow keys are unconcerned with measures. They just go to the next object in the current layer.
I don't consider this to be a tuplet bug so much as an insertion bug. If I were to add a couple of quarter notes instead of the triplet, it would still push that quarter rest forward, and I would still have to use the arrow trick to reach it.
The errant rest is considered to be attached to measure 20, although it looks like it is in 21. Selection by mouse apparently only works on objects in the current measure. Since the mouse cursor has to be on measure 21 to get to those rests that are actually part of measure 20, they are unreachable.
Once you select the half note in 20, the arrow keys are unconcerned with measures. They just go to the next object in the current layer.
I don't consider this to be a tuplet bug so much as an insertion bug. If I were to add a couple of quarter notes instead of the triplet, it would still push that quarter rest forward, and I would still have to use the arrow trick to reach it.
-Tom Williams
Finale 26.1, Finale 2012
Finale 26.1, Finale 2012
No-one seems to have mentioned that, regardless of the positioning of the rest, it is there because your score is in 4:4 time (see the second measure) and you have only entered 3 quarter-notes of value. Quaver triplets add up to one crotchet not two, and so when you moved on to the next measure the software automatically padded the rest of the measure with rests.
Deleting the rest (or hiding it by highlighting it and pressing "h") is not really going to fix that. The rest will still be "played". I would think what you really wanted to do was use triplet crotchets to fill the second two beats of the measure. It would not be good form to delete/hide a rest that has significance to the reader.
Deleting the rest (or hiding it by highlighting it and pressing "h") is not really going to fix that. The rest will still be "played". I would think what you really wanted to do was use triplet crotchets to fill the second two beats of the measure. It would not be good form to delete/hide a rest that has significance to the reader.
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