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Postby Divinity » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Hi

the first time i used songwriter 2012 i had access to the special tools (hammer icon), but it disappeared and i did not mind, since i didn't need it for a while.

But now i can't find it, i can't reach it anywhere

https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... nName=main

i tried this steps but there is no hammer symbol, my finale has no "special tools pallette", and its not under "window".
how is this possible since i've used it before?
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Re: Special Tools

Postby zuill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:01 pm

I looked in the Manual available on the MakeMusic website and don't find Special Tools:

http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/ ... 1499101096

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Re: Special Tools

Postby Divinity » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:41 pm

how is this possible i literally used the tool 1 week ago on this program 0.o
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Re: Special Tools

Postby zuill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:02 pm

The link you provided is for Finale. The link I provided is for SongWriter. Which program are you using?

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Re: Special Tools

Postby Divinity » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:02 pm

finale songwriter 2012 (isnt this forum for that?)
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Re: Special Tools

Postby motet » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:00 pm

Right, but Zuill's point was that you're looking at the (full) Finale user manual.

Start here for Songwriter 2012 on Windows

https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/SongWriter2012Win/SongWriter.htm
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Re: Special Tools

Postby zuill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:16 pm

Motet,

That seems to be the same link I posted earlier.

What's puzzling me is: how does one get Special Tools in SongWriter when it is not there? The claim is that it was there last week, but is now gone?

I'm a bit confused by the claim.

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Re: Special Tools

Postby motet » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:34 pm

If the special tools are available, they should be on the Tools menu, regardless of hammer icon. Screenshot below from Finale 2011, not Songwriter!
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Re: Special Tools

Postby miker » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:10 pm

They are not available in SongWriter, nor have they ever been.

If the OP posts the document, will File Info tell us what program created it?
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Re: Special Tools

Postby Divinity » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:03 pm

its a shame, but ty anyway

yeah its weird but i can assure you i used the tools

by the way did you check my first attachment? is there another way of fixing this? (sharps too close to other stuff)
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Re: Special Tools

Postby miker » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:27 am

Only the full Finale has the Accidental Mover tool.

To the OP; can you post the document? Are you sure that you don’t have both Finale and SongWriter on your computer?
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Re: Special Tools

Postby motet » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:39 pm

You might want to spring for the upgrade. It will make your life easier.
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Re: Special Tools

Postby zuill » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:22 pm

Divinity wrote:its a shame, but ty anyway

yeah its weird but i can assure you i used the tools


Since you've used the tool, but it's not in SongWriter, I'm guessing you might have been trying out a demo of Finale and used the tool. If you used the tool in SongWriter, maybe you have a special version of SongWriter that nobody else has. I doubt that, but one never knows.

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Re: Special Tools

Postby Divinity » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:53 pm

i will upgrade soon when i get the money

can someone assist on a question i have (im a newbie even in music)
watch the image i posted:

is there a simpler way to do this? its 7+7 (or 14) but you can see how ugly it looks (i hid the rests)

https://gyazo.com/d69d26ce527d117c53a84d6ae621da2a <--------link
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Re: Special Tools

Postby Peter Thomsen » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:12 pm

Indeed there is a simpler way to do this.
It is called Cross-staff notes.

You can do it if you upgrade to the “full Finale”.

In the “full Finale” there is even a Cross Staff plug-in (as part of the plug-in package TG Tools).

With the plug-in you can create cross-staff notes very quickly and easily, via keyboard shortcuts.



(I suppose that the problem here is not the creation of 7-tuplets or 14-tuplets, but rather the cross-staff notation)
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Re: Special Tools

Postby Divinity » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:27 pm

yeah indeed the graphic notation display is the problem, the songwriter 2012 isnt making my life easier :D

(i expect with finale i can open this songwriter sheets i already worked on, and fix the last things (?) )
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Re: Special Tools

Postby zuill » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:33 pm

Yes. That's the way Finale is designed. You can open and edit your SongWriter files.

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