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Postby george ports 33 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 pm

Sometimes when I enter a chord in the tab staff, the number changes to the 1st number as I enter on the next string. All numbers change each time as I enter them. Is it because I'm not using stems and aren't hitting the note in the right place? This usually happens when I'm entering 1/4 note triplets.
Am using win 14.5.
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Postby zuill » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Maybe we would need to see the file. Can you post a sample?

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Postby miker » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:06 pm

To post a .mus file here, it must be compressed (zipped) and cannot exceed 100 kb in size.
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Postby Dan Kreider » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:15 am

miker wrote:To post a .mus file here, it must be compressed (zipped) and cannot exceed 100 kb in size.


Mike, is there a way that can be changed? Or is it an intrinsic part of the forum format?
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Postby miker » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:59 pm

I'm not sure, but I believe it's a limitation of the forum software. Sorry.
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Postby Charles Lawrence » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:36 pm

I haven't tried it yet, but what about .MUSX files which are already compressed ZIP files.
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Postby Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:43 pm

Charles Lawrence wrote:I haven't tried it yet, but what about .MUSX files which are already compressed ZIP files.

It is the file name extension that counts.
The file name extensions .mus and .musx are not allowed for attachments.
But file name extensions for compressed files (like e. g. .zip) are allowed.
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Postby Charles Lawrence » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:53 pm

Understood. Thanks Peter. :D
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Postby FinaleForum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:57 pm

miker wrote:To post a .mus file here, it must be compressed (zipped) and cannot exceed 100 kb in size.


I've added .mus and .musx. Please try it and let me know.

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Postby Charles Lawrence » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:08 pm

Test to upload MUSX file.

Test seemed to work, but 100KB is too severe a restriction, since a blank default file is > 80 KB already.
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(84.17 KiB) Downloaded 5 times
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Postby FinaleForum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:12 pm

The limit should be 250k.
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Postby David Ward » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:21 pm

FinaleForum wrote:The limit should be 250k.
That should be very useful, thank you.
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Postby Charles Lawrence » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:22 pm

Even 250KB is too small IMHO. I suggest no less than 1MB. I have many MUSX/MUS files larger than 250KB, and I don't have a very large collection, and none with what might be deemed large scores, like fully orchestrated symphonies or operas. Maybe someone with such a collection should chime in here with a recommended file size to accommodate "large" scores.
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Postby FinaleForum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:27 pm

I suggest you get a cloud space provider and link to your files there (Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.).
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Postby Charles Lawrence » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:33 pm

FinaleForum wrote:I suggest you get a cloud space provider and link to your files there (Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.).


Most of us already have such "cloud space providers" (what a buzz phrase :roll: ), but as has been said before, having to go outside the forum to do what you need is less than desirable. Keep everything under one roof. One stop shopping. etc.
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Postby David Ward » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:34 pm

Charles Lawrence wrote:Even 250KB is too small IMHO … … … Maybe someone with such a collection should chime in here with a recommended file size to accommodate "large" scores.
I've just checked a single scene from an opera (one of 12 .musx files that make up the complete piece). It is 1.1MB as a Finale .musx file and 848KB as a PDF. However, I'm not sure one would very often want to up-load a complete Finale file of that size, as opposed to a few pages of it, so 250KB seems fairly workable meantime.
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Postby miker » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:40 pm

I agree. We rarely (never) need to see an entire piece to diagnose a problem. I think the addition of .mus, .musx, and increase to 250 MB are all great.

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Postby zuill » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:51 pm

miker wrote:I agree. We rarely (never) need to see an entire piece to diagnose a problem. I think the addition of .mus, .musx, and increase to 250 MB are all great.

Thanks, Scott!


I'm sure you meant 250 KB. Not that 250MB wouldn't be okay.

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Postby FinaleForum » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:59 pm

Unfortunately, it's simply not our mission to provide a file swapping service. This site exists to help people discuss Finale and that's really the bottom line. We are here for discussion purposes and that's about it. The attachments feature is only used to enhance the discussion by allowing samples of Finale scores.
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Postby Dan Kreider » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:22 pm

Charles Lawrence wrote: Most of us already have such "cloud space providers" (what a buzz phrase :roll: ), but as has been said before, having to go outside the forum to do what you need is less than desirable. Keep everything under one roof. One stop shopping. etc.


"Shopping" seems to imply that you're paying. These forums are free for our use. 8)

Dropbox is very simple to share links with. Jight-click the file, select "Copy Dropbox link," and paste it into the text box.
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Postby motet » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:48 pm

Better to post an example of the problem you're having than your entire piece. For the times where the entire piece is mysteriously broken, an offsite link seems fine. Posterity is not going to care about such a file.

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Postby Charles Lawrence » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:34 am

Gentlemen/Ladies,
There seems to be a change of opinion on the issue of having to use a "cloud" server to upload/download file examples/snippets large or small. Refer to this thread discussing the issue, among others, when MM announced it was closing their forum and moving to a new site where such a policy would be in effect.

http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=481931

Dan,
I did not mean to imply that anyone was "paying" for anything. "One stop shopping" is a phrase that I used simply to mean that everything you need to do is found in one place, i.e. this forum.

Folks,
Don't get me wrong. I think that the recent changes to allow MUSX and MUS files to be uploaded/downloaded directly, and the increase to a 250MB file size is great. Motet, I think you would agree that 80KB was just too small and not "fine". The 250KB current file size will probably suffice for the exchange of files or portions thereof to users via this forum, for the purpose of discussion or debugging. The exchange of large complete scores may best be left to the "cloud", or, as it used to be called for decades before the nebulous buzz word cloud was dreamed up, on-line storage, but there may come a time...
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Postby Dan Kreider » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:55 am

Charles,

I read that forum thread you linked. I do agree there are some good points regarding links not being long-term.

I also know that there are real, tangible issues regarding this forum and available bandwidth <> cost. Hopefully 250KB will be enough for the time being. Certainly I think that's enough for troubleshooting.

I'm sure the forum will grow and change over time, as cloud computing grows.

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Postby MikeHalloran » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:14 pm

According to email I recently received, DropBox is doing away with the concept of Public folders in March. I don't know how that will affect anyone going forward—and frankly, I chose not to speculate till the new rules go into effect.

I'm good with a 250K example size. I want to see the problem, not your entire work (unless it's short). If I get interested enough to want to see the whole thing, I'll back-channel you, ok?
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Postby Dan Kreider » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:09 pm

The reason they are doing away with the public folder is because you can now share any file, regardless of where it is in your dropbox folders. Just right click and copy link.
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