Finale Forum

hi - i'd like to make a string of bend hats, starting with one note, sliding to the next, then sliding to the next, etc..

it doesn't seem like finale can handle this just using the basic tool..

does anyone have any thoughts?

I am sorry, but I am unable to reproduce your problem.
It seems that Bend Hat Tool works for me without problems.

I think you need to be a little more specific and supply a little more information.
What MakeMusic product do you have, including year? - are you perhaps using Finale 2012?

What are you trying to achieve? How are you trying to do it? What happens when you do that? What doesn't happen that you expect to happen?

You could also attach a file here.

Before you can attach a .mus document in this forum, you must compress it, e. g. as a .zip file.
And the file size must not be more than max. 100 KB.

Hi Peter -

I am using Finale 2012, for Mac.

What are you trying to achieve?
I would like to be able to slide from one note to the next to the next to the next, without stopping or the inflection of a new attack... similar to a slide guitar, where you strike a string and play a run of notes.


How are you trying to do it?
I've tried glissandi, bend hats, and slide notes.

What happens when you do that?
The sliding mechanism usually stops after a few notes and it just starts to play normally... conversely, it will sometimes play none of the notes until the last few and just perform the slide very quickly.

From your first post it sounded like your problem was a layout issue.

Now I understand (if I understand you correctly) that it is solely a playback issue.

Finale is primarily a layout tool - playback is an added bonus.

Glissando interpretation (playback) is handled by a "Finale add-on" called Human Playback.
If you expand the window Playback Controls, you get a button that gives you access to the Human Playback Preferences.

Take your time to experiment with the options.
There are a lot of them.

yes - i've experimented with the glissandi options in the HP Preferences section - but i still can't seem to figure out this specific problem.. did it work for you?

Did you examine the .mus document I attached?
For me the document "Glissandi (Chromatic).mus" plays back all its chromatic glissandi, without any problems.

ah, that's interesting. yes, i used the document you attached. i do get the notes in between the slide, in chromatic and diatonic modes - but it doesn't "slide", as much as it retriggers notes for each step of the transition.. ah well, maybe i can figure it out.. thanks for the help!

ropedin,

In your document you have chosen a piccolo sound.
A piccolo flute executes glissandi by playing a chromatic scale.
That is the reason why I selected chromatic glissandi.

The different instruments have some limitations on, what glissando types that are possible.

If you listen carefully to your first document with piccolo and "pitch bend" glissando playback, you will hear that the interval playback is incorrect. You do not hear the notated intervals, but rather some much smaller intervals.

If you rather want a "pitch bend" effect, then you may have to use another playback patch than piccolo, since "pitch bend" does not work well on the piccolo.

I suggest that you study what the manual has to tell about "pitch bend" glissando.

Oh yeah - the piccolo was more of a tossed-off aside, I thought the MIDI would function the same regardless of the instrument - I'm imagining something more like a trombone -the "pitchbend" feature is what I'm looking to explore, moreso than the chromatic/diatonic territory... I feel like a trombone should be more functional with "pitchbend", but I'm finding the same result.

I wonder if this is something that I need to use the MIDI tool for?

Is this only a matter of playback, or is layout important, too?

If you only need playback, consider notating only one pitch, and bend that pitch up and down as needed.

all i need to do is figure out playback...sadly, the pitchbending yields the same results..

I am sorry, I may have expressed myself unclearly.

If layout does not matter, consider notating only one pitch, and bend that pitch up and down as many times as needed.

See the attached document.

oh cool! how did you do that?

It is done with expressions that have Playback effect set to Pitchwheel, performing an executable shape.

Here are some more examples.

In the first two examples the shape is composed of two lines, created with the Shape Designer's sub-tool Line Tool.

In the last two examples the shape is composed of a single multiline, created with the Shape Designer's sub-tool Multiline Tool.

I recommend that you read about executable shapes in the manual, and study how my four examples are
set up.

Hi. Thanks for the forum. I have similar issue to what I am reading about:

I use Finale for scoring, but the primary use is for playback. That is, as a sequencer for having additional tracks during live performances. Let us assume that is all I am talking about here. I do not care how things look in Finale - only how they sound in playback. Here is my question in simplest form: "HOW CAN I MOST SIMPLY AND REPEATABLY TOGGLE BETWEEN CHROMATIC (ARPEGGIO) AND GLIDING (PORTAMENTO) GLISSANDI PLAYBACK? As it turns out I NEVER want chromatic glissandi - only gliding (portamento). I often start a score from a default document, and the glissandi often playback as portamento, but then later they all change to chromatic playback. Then I can't go back to gliding (portamento) glissandi playback. It's almost as if the portamento routine in the software crashes without a pop-up message. Most common instruments for my use of portamento are guitars and basses but also sometimes I want gliding in voice patches. I use both smartsynth and Garritan VST libraries. I also use MIDI playback sometimes. Thank you.

Maybe a sequencer or DAW would be a better choice. As has been pointed out, Finale is primarily a notation program, with playback as an added bonus.