Troubles with voices and playback
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Hello
I am confused about voices, midi channels and layers.
I have one staff and I want have play two Flutes with different dynamics under one staff. I put dynamics for each voice (layer one and two) but all dynamics are affected by layer one. I open dynamic expression for layer two and set playback for layer two, but playback is still for layer one. How to play for each layer own dynamics and crescendos and decrescendos?
I try Demo Finale v25
Thanks.
I am confused about voices, midi channels and layers.
I have one staff and I want have play two Flutes with different dynamics under one staff. I put dynamics for each voice (layer one and two) but all dynamics are affected by layer one. I open dynamic expression for layer two and set playback for layer two, but playback is still for layer one. How to play for each layer own dynamics and crescendos and decrescendos?
I try Demo Finale v25
Thanks.
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I did it, but still no dynamic playback for voice 2. Every dynamics play only for voice 1.
Btw. I use midi out to connection with DAW.
Btw. I use midi out to connection with DAW.
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I discover there is +2 layers for staff. 4 voices + chords and expression. If I change channel for expression to 2 or another, all dynamics will be play for selected channel. But then I don't understand, why there is option play dynamic for layer 2 if thery are not play. I think it is broken. I spent lot of time how to play dynamics for each channel, but without solution. Documentation say, each layer can have own dynamic which will be playback, but there is no tutorial or documentation how to do it.
I was thinking I'll buy Finale, but without this feature I'll stick with another notation program.
I was thinking I'll buy Finale, but without this feature I'll stick with another notation program.
- michelp
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First, to avoid confusion, I would suggest to use the proper terms : there are 4 layers in Finale, and 2 voices per layer.
In your case, using separate layers, each with a separate midi channel (defined via the ScoreManager) is the recommended procedure.
Now, if you have created an expression, right-click on its handle and select "Edit Expression Assignment".
This window pops up, in which the expression can be assigned to show and affect playback in a specific layer.
Another thing, by default, if the option below is NOT checked, an expression will be attached to ALL layers when it is entered into the score. This can be changed later with the procedure described above.
In your case, using separate layers, each with a separate midi channel (defined via the ScoreManager) is the recommended procedure.
Now, if you have created an expression, right-click on its handle and select "Edit Expression Assignment".
This window pops up, in which the expression can be assigned to show and affect playback in a specific layer.
Another thing, by default, if the option below is NOT checked, an expression will be attached to ALL layers when it is entered into the score. This can be changed later with the procedure described above.
Michel
MacOsX 12.7.4, Finale 27.4.1 & 26.3.1, Mac Mini Intel Dual Core i7 3Ghz, 16 Go Ram. Azerty kb. MOTU Midi Express XT USB, Roland Sound Canvas SC-88vl, MOTU Audio Express. 2 monitors (27"' pivot, 24'"), JW Lua, RGP Lua
MacOsX 12.7.4, Finale 27.4.1 & 26.3.1, Mac Mini Intel Dual Core i7 3Ghz, 16 Go Ram. Azerty kb. MOTU Midi Express XT USB, Roland Sound Canvas SC-88vl, MOTU Audio Express. 2 monitors (27"' pivot, 24'"), JW Lua, RGP Lua
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Thanks to try help, but I now discover dynamics are not working with cc1+velocity for sustained instruments. Before it was working. Then I am not able to test it if it is working. Finale looks very good for engraving, and have some nice idea for playback, but playback parts looks very nonintuitive and I am afraid it not works as expected. Maybe it working if I'll use garritan or another VSTi inside Finale, but I don't want use VSTi inside Finale.
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Today I try open FInale, and dynamics are working back. Ok, I put dynamics with Favor A.. to Active Layer, set dynamics to corresponding layer and nothing happens. Dynamics still play only for layer 1, other layers ignore dynamic marks.