Suggestions to keep pages at minimum?
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Let's say I have four bars that must be repeated two times (8 bars).
The four bars must be played identically except for the last quarter of the eight bar that a have snare roll in it .
I wish to simply enclose the four bars into repeat brackets to keep it short. Also I wish to avoid a second ending.
Is it acceptable to notate the roll with grace notes, suggesting to play it the second time?
How do you keep your pages at minimum? I like to keep each parts in 1,2 pages by using lot of repeats, 1st and 2nd ending etc.
Also I play with margins, systems size. multimeasure rests...
I know this is not strictly Finale related, please address me to another forum where music notation is discussed if you want.
The four bars must be played identically except for the last quarter of the eight bar that a have snare roll in it .
I wish to simply enclose the four bars into repeat brackets to keep it short. Also I wish to avoid a second ending.
Is it acceptable to notate the roll with grace notes, suggesting to play it the second time?
How do you keep your pages at minimum? I like to keep each parts in 1,2 pages by using lot of repeats, 1st and 2nd ending etc.
Also I play with margins, systems size. multimeasure rests...
I know this is not strictly Finale related, please address me to another forum where music notation is discussed if you want.
- Peter Thomsen
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There is nothing wrong about discussing music notation here in this forum, even if it “is not strictly Finale related”.detlef wrote:… I know this is not strictly Finale related, please address me to another forum where music notation is discussed if you want.
If you browse the threads here, you will find a lot of music notation discussion.
By The Way, the last question is definitely Finale related:
detlef wrote:… How do you keep your pages at minimum? I like to keep each parts in 1,2 pages by using lot of repeats, 1st and 2nd ending etc.
Also I play with margins, systems size, multimeasure rests …
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Perfectly acceptable if you just add a text expression above the roll which says "2nd x only".detlef wrote:Is it acceptable to notate the roll with grace notes, suggesting to play it the second time?
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I suppose that you already are aware of the settings that affect grace note spacing.detlef wrote:Grace notes overlaps with other snare notes. Anyway they can't be positioned in the right way.
Are there other solutions coming to mind?
Two ideas:
1) You could experiment with the music spacing.
The default spacing in Finale (= Fibonacci spacing) uses a Scaling Factor of 1.618… (= the golden ratio).
Choosing a lower Scaling Factor might give you a little more space.
Try e. g. a Scaling Factor of 1.414… (= the square root of 2).
Or an even lower value.
With a Scaling Factor of as little as 1 all notes will get evenly spaced, regardless of their rhythmical value.
2) You could experiment with a smaller music size (Scaling Percentage)
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what I know is that grace notes do not affect the bar metric.I suppose that you already are aware of the settings that affect grace note spacing.
It's not a problem of space, I don't get how a reader is going to understand where exactly grace notes must be played the second time I want to play B in place of A