How to place repeat sign after 5 8th notes in 6/8 measure?

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Post by tlwilliams » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:27 pm

In Finale 2008, I can't seem to shift the repeat sign before the pickup (after 5 8th notes in a 6/8 measure) to the next section in a piano piece. Can anyone help? thanks!


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Post by miker » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:38 pm

Can you post a picture of what you're trying to do? I can't quite get it from your description.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:08 pm

1) Like Mike, I can't quite get it from your description.

However, your subject line (= "How to place repeat sign after 5 8th notes in 6/8 measure?") is quite clear.

I suggest that you try the plug-in "Mid Measure Repeats".

You can find it here (if Finale 2008 has the plug-in, I don't remember):

Plug-In menu > Measures > Mid Measure Repeats




2) I'm not sure, what you mean by the words "shift the repeat sign"?

Do you perhaps want to shift the repeat sign from Forward to Backward?
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Post by tlwilliams » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:44 pm

I have a simple piece with 2 sections, both repeated. There is a pickup to the first section, and a pickup to the second, each pickup is just one eighth note. THe piece is in 6/8. The repeat sign(s - because both sections are repeated) have to fall before the pick up to the second section.

OK, the Plug-in Mid Measure repeat worked for the second section - THANK YOU! but after repeated attempts to insert the repeat sign for the first section, I am getting the message:
"This repeat could not be created due to a composite time signature."

So can I get around this? The entire piece is in 6/8. Thanks!

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:34 pm

tlwilliams wrote:I have a simple piece with 2 sections, both repeated. There is a pickup to the first section, and a pickup to the second, each pickup is just one eighth note. THe piece is in 6/8. The repeat sign(s - because both sections are repeated) have to fall before the pick up to the second section.

OK, the Plug-in Mid Measure repeat worked for the second section - THANK YOU! but after repeated attempts to insert the repeat sign for the first section, I am getting the message:
"This repeat could not be created due to a composite time signature."

So can I get around this? The entire piece is in 6/8. Thanks!
How did you attempt to insert the repeat sign for the first section?
- Did you use the plug-in?
- or did you use the Repeat Tool's Repeat menu?
- or did you (manually) use the Repeat Tool?
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Post by tlwilliams » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:08 am

OK - problem solved! After using the Plug in Midmeasure repeat in the second section, the repeat tool allowed me to insert the back repeat sign in the first section. Thanks for the tip and help!

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Post by djfader » Thu May 28, 2015 9:31 pm

I tried this, following the help instructions, but received the following message no matter what I selected:

"This repeat could not be inserted at the specified location, possibly due to the rhythmical structure of the music."

This message is completely unhelpful. Can anyone be of service here?

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Post by miker » Thu May 28, 2015 9:35 pm

Can you give us more details about your score? Or maybe post a picture of what you want to do?
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Post by djfader » Sun May 31, 2015 4:56 pm

Thanks,

You'll see that I've highlighted the measures I want to repeat, but when I select "Mid Measure Repeats," I receive this very nondescript message. I tried everything I could think of to get this to work, even changing the rhythm, but to no avail. The problem seems to be that I want the repeat between beats (because of the 8th pickup)? I'm using Finale 2012.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun May 31, 2015 11:36 pm

There are two types of pickup measure.
Which one is used in this particular Finale document?

1) Document menu > Pickup Measure…
This type of pickup measure does not play back correctly, since the pickup layout is created as a full measure with invisible “placeholder rests” at the beginning of the full measure.

2) Time Signature Tool.
Via the option “Use a Different Time Signature for Display” you can create a {real time signature} of 1/8, with a {display time signature} of 3/4.
This type of pickup measure plays back correctly.

For creating Mid Measure Repeats it is better to use a type 2) pickup.


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Post by djfader » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:56 pm

Thank you! I removed the assigned pickup, and used the second type you suggested, and the mid-measure pickup worked. Perhaps Final should include something to this effect in the error message one receives.

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Post by aayala1 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:34 am

I'm trying to do this exact thing, but i only want one backward repeat mid-measure..
no matter what i do, the mid-measure repeat plug in gives me both forward and backward signs at the beginning and ending of the selected area, can't find how to delete one either...

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Post by motet » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:33 am

After running the plug-in, go the the Repeat tool, click the handle on the forward repeat, and press Delete..
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Post by aayala1 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:16 pm

nice! it worked, thank you

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