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Post by finalizer » Wed May 15, 2024 1:25 pm

When loading Libraries they duplicate. Is there a way to avoid that? Or to consolidate them?
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Post by ebiggs1 » Wed May 15, 2024 2:20 pm

I don't think so but if there is, I don't know how.
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Post by finalizer » Wed May 15, 2024 5:39 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 2:20 pm
I don't think so but if there is, I don't know how.
So it's not only me, you too have this issue?
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Wed May 15, 2024 6:30 pm

finalizer wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 1:25 pm
… When loading Libraries they duplicate. Is there a way to avoid that? Or to consolidate them? …
From your screen shot it looks like you have loaded a library with expressions - and various expression categories.
What seems to be duplicated, is the set of expression categories (not the library file).

My guess is that the library file itself does not get duplicated = after you have loaded the library, the Libraries folder still contains only one copy of the library file.

Before we can try to duplicate your issue, we need more info:

1) Exactly what library file did you load?

2) Into exactly what Finale document? (perhaps an older Finale document created in an older Finale version?)

3) Before you loaded the library, did some of the expressions already there have a programmed expression metatool?

When you load an expression library, the new expressions are loaded without any programmed expression metatools.
Only the categories at the top of the expression category list (= the categories that already were in the document) contain expressions with programmed metatools.

I suggest that you contact MakeMusic’s Tech Support about this issue.
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Post by finalizer » Wed May 15, 2024 7:09 pm

I'm working on a project where I have a series of short pieces for which I have to make lots of custom expressions (mostly in the Expressive Text category) that have French words with various special letters. Some of the expressions are repeated, so in order to avoid to re-make them all the time, every time when I finish a piece I save its library and then I load it in the new piece.

You're right, what gets duplicated is the categories, not the libraries themselves.

When I save a library I check all the bullets (Articulations, Chord and Fretboards, Clefs, etc.)

I would appreciate if you can replicate the situation and see what gives.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Thu May 16, 2024 3:04 pm

My guess is that the library file itself does not get duplicated = after you have loaded the library, the Libraries folder still contains only one copy of the library file.
I thought that is what the OP said and is the problem. Yes, no? When you load a library it appends it to the existing library. Yes, no?
However this duplicates a lot of what is already there. Unless I am doing something wrong or don't know how, it does not replace it.
Perhaps you/me should delete everything you don't want repeated before you save your newly created library and then save it.
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Post by finalizer » Thu May 16, 2024 4:07 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 3:04 pm
My guess is that the library file itself does not get duplicated = after you have loaded the library, the Libraries folder still contains only one copy of the library file.
I thought that is what the OP said and is the problem. Yes, no? When you load a library it appends it to the existing library. Yes, no?
However this duplicates a lot of what is already there. Unless I am doing something wrong or don't know how, it does not replace it.
Perhaps you/me should delete everything you don't want repeated before you save your newly created library and then save it.
It's the categories that get duplicated.

I spoke with makemusic and from their reply I gather that this is normal.

I was expecting that when loading/adding a library the categories to merge, but that's not what happens. My bad.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Thu May 16, 2024 4:43 pm

I was expecting that when loading/adding a library the categories to merge ...
Yeah, no, like I said they append.
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Post by engelbach » Fri May 17, 2024 9:58 pm

finalizer wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 4:07 pm
It's the categories that get duplicated.

I spoke with makemusic and from their reply I gather that this is normal.

I was expecting that when loading/adding a library the categories to merge, but that's not what happens. My bad.
Yes, that's the problem, of course — that it's "normal."

A "normal" that makes no sense, resulting in a dialog box with unnecessary duplication of categories.

Your "my bad" is supremely ironic.
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Post by motet » Fri May 17, 2024 11:45 pm

They've only had 15 or 20 years to fix this. Give them time.

If Lua has a way to manipulate libraries, it would be a useful plug-in to fix this.

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