Need Help With Multiple Movement Score

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TRMarcus
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Post by TRMarcus » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:03 am

I'm working on a three-movement suite for concert band in Finale 25 (Windows). The second movement starts with a pickup. The third movement has a slightly different instrumentation from the first two: In the first two movements, the two oboe parts share a staff. In the third movement, the second oboe switches to English horn on a separate staff.

I have just completed the first movement. After searching various sites and forums, I am now thoroughly confused about how to proceed. I can find nothing relevant in Make Music's on-line help for Finale 25. There is a section on "multiple movements" in documentation for older versions, but it's not particularly helpful.

The Finale file currently contains the complete first movement. Should I now add measures for the second movement to the same file after the final measure of the first movement? I do have the "JW New Piece" plug-in, if that would help.

It almost seems simpler to create new files for the second and third movements, using the first movement as a template, and then combine them with Score Merger. But several forum users mention that the tool doesn't handle pickups properly.

I'd appreciate any advice on what to do. A link to a document or post that adequately explains it would be fine.

Thanks,

Ted


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Post by miker » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:06 am

I would create the files separately. Use full duration for the first measures; just fill them with rests. After you have merged the scores, change the pickup measures.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:21 pm

When I do this I always create separate files for each movement. One big reason for me is the smaller file size of independent files.
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Post by motet » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:32 pm

You don't necessarily need to merge when all is said and done, if you're willing to have each movement start on a separate page.

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Post by HaraldS » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:55 am

You already have Jari's New Piece plugin, which is good. You might run it on a test file to see how it works and how to handle the pickup. I use it for an opera at the moment and it's great.

As for the changing number of staves, I would suggest to enter all different staves which occur into the document and then hide the empty ones. Make a group of the two oboe staves and extract the whole group as a part and hide the second system wherever it is emtpy.

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Post by TRMarcus » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:23 am

motet wrote:You don't necessarily need to merge when all is said and done, if you're willing to have each movement start on a separate page.
I'm willing to have each movement start on a separate page in the score, but not the parts. Some of the parts probably won't need a full page for each movement, which means merging will reduce the number of pages I need to print and tape together.

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Post by TRMarcus » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:24 am

miker wrote:I would create the files separately. Use full duration for the first measures; just fill them with rests. After you have merged the scores, change the pickup measures.
This is what I'm doing, as it seems to be the consensus.

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