Expression for swung 16ths?

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Post by Kroy » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:41 am

Is there a way to do a swung sixteenths expression at the top of a song.
eg the swung 8ths expression (no7) is there - two 8ths = 1/4, 8th tuplet
But I'd like to also have an expression that shows four sixteenths = 8th,16th (tuplet) 8th,16th (tuplet)
I've seen this in drum books, but whether they were using Finale..?
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Post by michelp » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:45 pm

This can be done with the Maestro Time font.
To save you time, try this : copy/paste this sequence and change it to MaestroTime :

ŒÊÊÊ = ‰ÇÙ ‰ÇÙ

You'll get this :
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:25 pm

To get full control over each individual element in the symbol, create it as a shape expression.

The “swung 8ths expression (no7)” you have found in the default, is a shape expression.

See the attached Finale documents for some shape expression variations on the theme - with 16ths.
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Post by Kroy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:24 am

michelp wrote:This can be done with the Maestro Time font.
To save you time, try this : copy/paste this sequence and change it to MaestroTime :

ŒÊÊÊ = ‰ÇÙ ‰ÇÙ

You'll get this :
screenshot_62.png
This is great - thank you!
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Post by Kroy » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:25 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:To get full control over each individual element in the symbol, create it as a shape expression.

The “swung 8ths expression (no7)” you have found in the default, is a shape expression.

See the attached Finale documents for some shape expression variations on the theme - with 16ths.
Thank you, but I can't open these because I have Finale 2009.
Is it possible to send me versions for 2009?
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:11 am

Oops, sorry!

I did not notice that you are using Finale 2009.
Unfortunately I do not have Finale 2009.

Attached are some older examples (for Finale 2001, I think).
You should be able to open them in Finale 2009.
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Post by Kroy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:11 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:Oops, sorry!

I did not notice that you are using Finale 2009.
Unfortunately I do not have Finale 2009.

Attached are some older examples (for Finale 2001, I think).
You should be able to open them in Finale 2009.
Thank you :-)
Is there a way to copy get this into 2009's Expression Selection?
(can't seem to figure this one out and google didn't reveal any clues..)
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:30 pm

Kroy wrote:… Is there a way to copy get this into 2009's Expression Selection?
(can't seem to figure this one out and google didn't reveal any clues..)
An expression is document specific, not program specific.

In Other Words:
You can get the expression into your Finale 2009 documents, not into the program Finale 2009 itself.

To get the expression into a document, copy music (e. g. one measure) with the expression into the document.

Or save the expression as a library, and load that library into the document.

To have the expression in all new documents, add the expression to the template you use for new documents.
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Post by Kroy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:18 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Kroy wrote:… Is there a way to copy get this into 2009's Expression Selection?
(can't seem to figure this one out and google didn't reveal any clues..)
An expression is document specific, not program specific.

In Other Words:
You can get the expression into your Finale 2009 documents, not into the program Finale 2009 itself.

To get the expression into a document, copy music (e. g. one measure) with the expression into the document.

Or save the expression as a library, and load that library into the document.

To have the expression in all new documents, add the expression to the template you use for new documents.
Ok that sounds pretty straight forward..
Thanks again!
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