Hiding Beams

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Post by Blacklab88 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:21 pm

I'm inputting Harmonic Glissandi, and in order to get the stemless, beamless notes in a 4/4 bar, I have created quarter notes without stems and changed the stem head. However, I can't find a way to completely hide the beams. I can reduce their length, but there's still a speck of ink that I can't hide. There is probably a better way to create these notes. Any ideas about that or about hiding beams? Thanks!
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:15 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Please include pertinent details in your posts, especially if you are a first time poster.
Software version (Finale, PrintMusic, Notepad, etc.) and year (10, 11, 12, 14…) are beneficial.
Also, details about your operating system can expedite answers.
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Assuming that you are using the "full Finale", here are some ideas:

1) You can create stemless notes via a custom staff style.
A custom staff style is a good choice for changing all the notes in a selected region.

2) To hide the stem of a single, individual note, use the Special Tools Tool sub-tool Custom Stem Tool.
Replace the stem with a custom shape.
In the Shape Designer, create an empty shape.

3) To hide beams, enter the notes as tuplet quarters, e. g. "4 Quarters in the space of 4 Sixteenths".
Set the tuplet to display "Nothing".
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Post by Blacklab88 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:08 pm

Thanks, Peter!
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Post by gbluhm » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:14 pm

I'm trying show a specific scale I want used during a solo in the first bar of the solo and I ran across this post from 2014. Why? Because it's a double harmonic major scale and most players, at least the ones I know, don't know what that is. So I've tried to do as suggested below: I created an 8-tuplet fitting 8 quarter notes into the space of 8 eight notes. It works great til I try to enter that last (8th) note. I can't. If I get out of Simple Note Entry, a 16th note rest appears after the 7 quarter notes I've entered. I can delete the rest but I still can't enter that last quarter note, and again if I get out of Note Entry, 16th note rest reappears. As an alternative, I've tried using two 4-tuplets with 4 quarter notes fitting into the space of 8 eigth notes. The first tuplet enters fine, but I have the same problem in the second tuplet - it will not accept the final quarter note. Am I missing something obvious?
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Post by gbluhm » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:18 pm

Oops. Sorry, I meant an 8-th note rest appears, not a 16-note rest.
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Post by motet » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:18 pm

In Simple Entry, enter your first quarter as an ordinary quarter, then press Alt+Keypad9 and pick 8 quarters in the space of 8 eighths. That should work.

(Alt on the Mac is either Command or Option--I can never remember which.)

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Post by miker » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:09 pm

Option. In fact, many Mac keyboards have both markings on the key.
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Post by OCTO » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:48 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote: 3) To hide beams, enter the notes as tuplet quarters, e. g. "4 Quarters in the space of 4 Sixteenths".
Set the tuplet to display "Nothing".
To hide beams, simply un-beam these notes, and than hide stems. You don't need tuplets actually, correct?
gbluhm wrote:it will not accept the final quarter note. Am I missing something obvious?
Un-check "check for extra notes" in Simply settings.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:33 pm

OCTO wrote:… To hide beams, simply un-beam these notes, and then hide stems. You don't need tuplets actually, correct? …
Actually, the faster way is to use the staff style Stemless Notes.
Both stems and beams will be hidden “at one fell swoop”.
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Post by michelp » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:51 pm

The JW Change plug-in can also be helpful.
Stems -> Visibility -> Hide
Beams -> Visibility -> Hide.
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Post by gbluhm » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:21 am

Thanks to everyone for your help!

Motet, I tried your way and it worked. I didn't know about Alt-9 and I don't understand why it works and what I did doesn't, but who cares. But I did then have to manually remove the stems and the tuplet bracket. Of course, it only took seconds to do, but I tried Peter's method, which it turns out is extremely simple. I hadn't realized there was already a Stemless Notes staff style. I just used 8th notes and Stemless Notes and voila. As Finale used to say, and maybe they still do, there's more than one way to do something.

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Post by motet » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:52 am

Peter's is definitely the way to go. I was just answering the tuplet question.

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