Placement of fermatas and expressions/articulations

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Post by Harpsi » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:11 am

Which alternative is more correct?
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Post by Lothar Ochmann » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:44 am

I would prefer No 1. :D
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Post by Harpsi » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:51 am

Yes, I think I would too. Normally I would say nr 3, but as my example involves lyrics I am not so sure...
Nr 1 saves some space too.
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Post by HaraldS » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:05 pm

Absolutely No.1. That's where the musician would expect the items to be.

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Post by David Ward » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:58 pm

HaraldS wrote:Absolutely No.1. That's where the musician would expect the items to be.
… but maybe not a singer. Usually dynamics, expressions &c are placed above a vocal stave, the libretto (lyrics) go below. It's not an absolute rule, but it IS where a singer would usually expect to find such things. In this case, I'm not altogether sure of the best of the three options shown, it depends …
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Post by N Grossingink » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:30 pm

#1 looks OK, but imagine if the notes were upstem and the pitches near or on the bottom of the staff. With that in mind, I'd vote for #3.

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Post by miker » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:34 pm

As a singer, #3.
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Post by Harpsi » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:47 pm

In this particular case I will go for nr 1 because it will take a bit less space. The page in question is a bit crammed and the layout will benefit from the extra space. Good to hear from your answers that it is not a clear cut case.

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