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Post by OCTO » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:44 am

Why can't slurs be attached to beats?
I want to use slurs "to nothing" within glissandos, but every time I resize the measure they don't stretch.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:56 am

I am not sure why you would use a slur “to nothing”?
Why not use a tie “to nothing” instead?

Anyway, you can slur to a note, and then hide the note.
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Post by OCTO » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:23 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:I am not sure why you would use a slur “to nothing”?
Why not use a tie “to nothing” instead?

Anyway, you can slur to a note, and then hide the note.
Hm, tie to nothing seems to be a good ide. I will try.

But why do we have slurs attached to measures - option?
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Post by N Grossingink » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:51 pm

Select the Slur Tool, go to the Smart Shape Menu, and choose "Attach to Measures". Does this work for you? Don't forget to switch back to "Attach to Notes".

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Post by OCTO » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:53 pm

N Grossingink wrote:Select the Slur Tool, go to the Smart Shape Menu, and choose "Attach to Measures". Does this work for you? Don't forget to switch back to "Attach to Notes".

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Yes, but when you resize the measure it doesn't follow. It keeps same size.
Something as hairpin would be good to have.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:13 pm

OCTO wrote:… Yes, but when you resize the measure it doesn't follow. It keeps same size.
Take a look at the beat attached slur in the attached Finale document.
For me, this slur does not “keep same size”.
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Post by OCTO » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:27 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:
OCTO wrote:… Yes, but when you resize the measure it doesn't follow. It keeps same size.
Take a look at the beat attached slur in the attached Finale document.
For me, this slur does not “keep same size”.
Your slur does work but mine doesn't. No idea why.
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Post by motet » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:51 am

I suspect Peter used "Attach to Notes" but then dragged the right end of the slur afterwards. "Attach to Beats" doesn't appear to work for me.

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Post by OCTO » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:26 am

motet wrote:I suspect Peter used "Attach to Notes" but then dragged the right end of the slur afterwards. "Attach to Beats" doesn't appear to work for me.
When I click on his slur, the notes don't get highlighted. It must be other way.
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Post by motet » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:31 pm

When I click on a note-attached slur, the beats don't get highlighted, either (I've never seen that), but you may be right. I hope Peter will explain.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:46 pm

OCTO,

I am a little confused.
According to your forum profile you are using Mac.
But in the video I see a Windows interface.

* Are you using Mac or Windows?

I can not explain why the beat attached slur works for me, and not for you.
Perhaps it is a difference between Mac Finale and Windows Finale?
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Post by motet » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:33 pm

Doesn't work for me on Windows.

So, you employed no trick or puzzle? It's simply "attach to beats"?
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:33 am

Yes, simply “Attach to Beats”.

However, I am using Finale v25.
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Post by motet » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:53 am

That's probably it. in F2011, it's called "attach to measures" and works there. So it broke in 2012 or 2014. I guess someone reported it.

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Post by Charles Lawrence » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:19 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:Yes, simply “Attach to Beats”.

However, I am using Finale v25.
Your picture says F2014.5?!?!
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Charles Lawrence wrote:
Peter Thomsen wrote:Yes, simply “Attach to Beats”.

However, I am using Finale v25.
Your picture says F2014.5?!?!
I have not attached any picture.
My attachment was a Finale document.

Perhaps you mean motet’s picture?
I think that motet is using F2014.5 - but I could be wrong.
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Post by Charles Lawrence » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Charles Lawrence wrote:
Peter Thomsen wrote:Yes, simply “Attach to Beats”.

However, I am using Finale v25.
Your picture says F2014.5?!?!
I have not attached any picture.
My attachment was a Finale document.

Perhaps you mean motet’s picture?
I think that motet is using F2014.5 - but I could be wrong.
Operator error once again! :oops: It is motet's picture I was looking at. I was thinking it was your post. Sorry.
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Post by Charles Lawrence » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:46 pm

Peter Thomsen,

BTW, you can now upload/download MUSX files directly without having to encapsulate them in a ZIP file, or add ZIP to the end of the file name. I'm sure you must be aware of this.
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Post by OCTO » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:32 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:OCTO,

I am a little confused.
According to your forum profile you are using Mac.
But in the video I see a Windows interface.

* Are you using Mac or Windows?

I can not explain why the beat attached slur works for me, and not for you.
Perhaps it is a difference between Mac Finale and Windows Finale?
Yes, I am using Mac. But I installed Windows 7 on my Mac for this extreme project, just because on OS X my Finale is terribly slow. I am unambe to work. So therefore Windows on Mac.

BTW, Mac is a hardware. OS X is an operative system.

I will try these slurs once I boot back to OS X.
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