Staff Style - Turn off double bar line at transposition
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While using "Staff Styles" to combine both oboe and cor anglais on one staff (the instrument is set as oboe, yet there are places where I need the player to play on the cor anglais - notated in F), I created a staff style using a down fifth transposition.
At the moment the staff style stops, the normal transposition appears again - everything fine, but it also automatically creates a double bar line, and I can't find the option in the staff style menu to prevent it from doing so ...
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
At the moment the staff style stops, the normal transposition appears again - everything fine, but it also automatically creates a double bar line, and I can't find the option in the staff style menu to prevent it from doing so ...
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
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In Document Options > Barlines, there's a setting for automatic double bars at key changes. I wonder whether Finale sees the transposition as a "Key change"?
Have you tried using "Change Instrument" instead of a custom Staff Style?
Have you tried using "Change Instrument" instead of a custom Staff Style?
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Thanks, changing that setting did the trick!
Change Instrument in what context?
Change Instrument in what context?
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Interesting... Never used this feature, thanks a lot!
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It won't prevent the double barline at a key change, though. If you change from oboe to English Horn, there's a key change. So to prevent that you indeed need to uncheck the document option.
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Or, leave the Document settings and just change the barline in that one place to a single barline. You can do this with a Custom barline. Make sure the thickness matches the rest of the document.
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Once again, they have added a new feature without thinking things through. If you change from oboe to English horn it puts a double barline in every instrument in the score (though thankfully not in all the parts)--clearly wrong and confusing. Someone should report it.
If you go the custom barline route, then it's removed from every part including the oboe, where personally I would prefer it retained. So I instead turn off the new feature and put the double bars in myself and, in the case of an instrument change, add the double barline in the staff with an expression as I've always done.
It looks like they've hastily removed the "Automatic barlines" plug-in, which would still be useful with the new feature turned off. If anyone's interested, I've attached a JWLua script which will put double barlines at "real" key changes and/or tempo changes without (unlike the late MM plug-in) removing existing double bars.
If you go the custom barline route, then it's removed from every part including the oboe, where personally I would prefer it retained. So I instead turn off the new feature and put the double bars in myself and, in the case of an instrument change, add the double barline in the staff with an expression as I've always done.
It looks like they've hastily removed the "Automatic barlines" plug-in, which would still be useful with the new feature turned off. If anyone's interested, I've attached a JWLua script which will put double barlines at "real" key changes and/or tempo changes without (unlike the late MM plug-in) removing existing double bars.
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