Staccato over entire upper clef?

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Post by ainmpiano » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:56 pm

For playback, is there an easy way to make the entire upper clef be staccato?

Also, for someone reading the sheet music, how would I notate it so they know to make each note on the upper clef staccato?

I checked the help, but had no joy.
See attached.

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Post by N Grossingink » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:39 pm

I would use the MIDI Tool - MIDI Tool Menu > Note Durations > Percent Alter. 50% sounds about right - you can play around as you wish to get the effect you want.

Playing directions should be in text at the beginning - detached, sempre staccato or some such.

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Post by ainmpiano » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:06 pm

Thanks.
I selected the MIDI tool, and selected the entire top clef and set the note duration to 50%.
I heard no change.
I cleared it and set it to 10%.
Still no change in playback.
See attached.
Am I missing something?
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Post by ainmpiano » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:18 pm

Ron,
I must be missing a step or two from your description.
1. I select the entire upper staff.
2. I select the articulation tool.
then ? press s at some point?

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Post by motet » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:23 pm

I'm not sure what Ron is describing, but another way is to select the entire staff with the selection tool, then use Utilities/Apply articulation.

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Post by Michel R E » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:25 pm

If you select the music with the articulation tool active, then double tap the S key you will get staccatos added to all the notes.
note that this method will ALSO add them to any layer 2, 3 or 4 music in that selected area.
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Post by motet » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:35 pm

Ronald J Brown wrote:I select the staff, press the "s" key, then click the articulation tool while still holding the "s" key. I apply all articulations to selected areas that way, so I know it works (different keys for different articulations, of course).
If I select the staff, press S, then click the articulation tool, everything is deselected. But perhaps there's something new with F25.
Michel R E wrote:If you select the music with the articulation tool active, then double tap the S key you will get staccatos added to all the notes.
note that this method will ALSO add them to any layer 2, 3 or 4 music in that selected area.
From the articulation tool you can select by click-dragging, and it will then immediately prompt you for an articulation (staccato is in fact the default). If you click-drag with a key held down (e.g. S or A) that's another way. The double-tap business only works to change existing articulations, I think. But regardless it's hard (or impossible) to select an entire single staff in the Articulation tool when there are multiple systems, so I think the Selection tool + Utilities is the way to go in this case.

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Post by zuill » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:58 pm

The upper staff of the last attached file sounds quite staccato to me.

I too am baffled by Ron's method. I must be missing something.

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Post by N Grossingink » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:15 pm

zuill wrote:The upper staff of the last attached file sounds quite staccato to me.
I'm guessing you have the Human Playback style set to "none" as I do. You can set this in the Playback Control window.

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Post by motet » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:37 pm

Yes, that works for me (but not the best solution in this case, as I've said). Your previous instructions were different.

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Post by zuill » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:23 pm

And, I don't think you can select the whole staff on the whole document. I think only on the visible page. And that last instruction is different than the earlier one.

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Post by zuill » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:27 pm

N Grossingink wrote:
zuill wrote:The upper staff of the last attached file sounds quite staccato to me.
I'm guessing you have the Human Playback style set to "none" as I do. You can set this in the Playback Control window.

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I just opened the file and played it. It was set to Standard HP. I left it there. I am guessing the culprit is HP preference. I will guess that Start/Stop time for MIDI data is set to Ignore instead of Incorporate.

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Post by zuill » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:29 pm

But we're not talking about the Selection Tool. You absolutely can't do that when in the Articulation Tool.

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Post by MikeHalloran » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:01 am

N Grossingink wrote: Playing directions should be in text at the beginning - detached, sempre staccato or some such.

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I would notate the first measure in addition to the above. Eliminates guesswork in rehearsals.
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