French horn

[SuperDave]

Hello everyone. It's been quite a while since I've had to come here for help. I'm trying to do a compostion for a composer friend and she has two french horns in "F". The piece is written in 5 flats but since there are no french horns in my version of Finale 2006 she suggested that I try entering a horn in "F" but it shows four flats in the piece. She has written the horn in C, no sharps, no flats. When the try the horn in Eb it comes in with 2 flats. Is there any way I can get around this problem?

[N Grossingink]

It sounds like you want the horn to be displayed without a key signature, as your friend has written it. This article should show you the way:

http://www.rpmseattle.com/of_note/creat ... in-finale/

N.

[motet]

If that gives you any trouble, I've attached my old instructions for accomplishing keysigatureless Horn in F. In a nutshell, do the following, then set the key signature for the entire horn staff to F major:

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[SuperDave]

Sorry for the delay. I figured out how to do it. Thanks for all those who offered suggestions. You never fail me.

[SuperDave]

Me again. I'm still working on this problem. I created the horn in F although the piece is written in 5 flats. When there is a key change to D the horns get changed to 6 sharps. I tried the suggestion to change it back to F at measure 11 but that changes the whole piece back to the beginning to four sharps. Is there any way to make the changes at measure 11 and not have it change the key at measure 1?

[motet]

If you are creating a key signatureless part per my instructions above using an independent key signature, make sure the entire horn part is in the key of F. With the Key Signature tool, double-click on the horn staff and set it to F major for the entire piece

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[SuperDave]

I set up the horns to F using your method but had to play around with the numbers to get an F chord. Now when I use the Key Signature tool and set it to the end of the piece as per your response for each horn it changes the key signature for the whole piece. What am I missing here?

[motet]

I'm not sure what you mean by F chord, but it sounds like you failed to set the horn staff to independent key signature. Don't play around with numbers, but rather, revisit the instructions. You must be doing something wrong.

[SuperDave]

I play guitar so I always think in terms of chords. I meant the horns in F major. Doing what you suggested should not change the Key for the whole composition?

[motet]

I'm afraid I've helped you all I can.

[SuperDave]

I'm afraid I've helped you all I can.

Many thanks, I'm going to try some different things to see if this can be resolved.