Beaming across 32's

[KennethKen]

Hi Folks,

I need a clue on how to beam as in the example attached.

It's Respighi's Pines of Rome. I'm trying to reproduce the bassoon/English horn/cello beaming in the 2nd measure of rehearsal [1] (page 2 of the score).

If I choose Doc/Opt/Beams/Extend secondary beams over rests it makes both the 16th and 32nd beam extend under the rest. I can't remember if there's a way to shorten the 32nd beam.

Ken
Windows 7, Finale 25.3

[Peter Thomsen]

1) Instead of the 32nd rest, enter a 16th rest, created as a special tuplet:
1 sixteenth in the space of 1 thirtysecond.
This will give the desired beaming.
Use the plug-in Move Rests to move these special “tuplet 16th rests” down below the bottom of the page.
In that way the 16th rests will not oprint, even if they are not hidden.
Use the Speedy Entry Tool feature Voice 1 / Voice 2 to enter the missing 32nd rest in Voice 2.
In Voice 2 you must enter the 32nd as a note, and then turn the 32nd note into a rest.

2) I would break the secondary beam in the middle of each measure.

[KennethKen]

Thank Peter!

Your suggestion about the triplet re-engaged my imagination and I did things a little different. From past negative experience, I try to avoid hiding things by sliding them off the page.

For anyone whose interested:
1) Create a 16th note(s) in place of the 32nd rest(s) and program it/them as one 32nd in the time of one 32nd.
2a) Using JW Change, change notehead to #168 (32nd rest)
2b) Using JW Change, hide stem
2c) Using JW Change, hide tuplet

Done in seconds. Easy-peasy.
Thanks again Peter.

I agree that breaking the secondary beam would make it a bit clearer but in this case I'm trying purposefully to recreate "some of" the look of the Respighi.


Ken

[Anders Hedelin]

Kenneth, you might be interested in this thread on the other forum, even if it does not give you the answer.
https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... over-rests
Anders