best practices for cadenzas, no bar lines

ronwass · Post by **ronwass** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:20 am

I want to type up a lengthy cadenza from Piazzolla's Kicho. Comes to about the equivalent of 120 quarter notes. Been a while. What's advice for best practice so that the other parts only show up as one measure, with a single whole rest?

thanks in advance

Ron

miker · Post by **miker** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:32 am

Will it work correctly if you have the (hidden) time signature as 120/4?

ronwass · Post by **ronwass** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:10 am

My version stops at 100/4. But hey, maybe I can put it at 60/2. Will try and report back.

motet · Post by **motet** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:55 am

Presumably it won't all fit on one system, so have a measure per system (you can hide the barline). There's a JW plug-in that will help with this--i think you can enter it in 4/4 and then the plug-in will do the right thing.

ronwass · Post by **ronwass** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:04 am

OK, will try. Yes, the split over system break is a little unweildy.

motet · Post by **motet** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:19 am

In fact, to split over the system break in Finale you have to make separate measures.

I didn't read carefully that you want the parts to have one measure rest. If the internal barlines are invisible, maybe you can put a whole rest in the middle one, and blank notation for the others.

BuonTempi · Post by **BuonTempi** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:43 am

motet wrote:In fact, to split over the system break in Finale you have to make separate measures.

It is possible to make split points within one measure. Measure Attributes has a checkbox to Allow Horizontal Split points. Once you've done that, you get three anchors in the Measure Tool. The bottom one lets you set split points.

There's also a plug-in that comes with Finale that does this more easily.

Peter Thomsen · Post by **Peter Thomsen** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:47 am

1) It is true that {Horizontal Split Points} is an option, but the feature is buggy.
It may not be a good idea to split a 60/2 (or 30/1) measure across several systems, via Horizontal Split Points.

2) The plug-in Split Measure does not use Horizontal Split Points, but rather creates the split by adding an extra measure, and adjusting the time signatures accordingly.
The first measure gets Invisible Barline, and the second measure is not included in the Measure Numbering.

motet · Post by **motet** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:38 pm

Thanks, Bion Tempi. The fact that the plug-in doesn't use split points says something, I think, but I've never used split points, so can't say.

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