Non-ternary 9/8
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Hi. This is my first post at the Finale Forum. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
I'm writing a piece of music in 4/4 with one 9/8 measure in the middle, but it's not the expected ternary measure (three dotted-quarter beats) but just a regular 4/4 measure with one extra eighth note. No problem annotating this, but my question is: Is it supposed to exist an specific, different notation for this time signature that lets the player know that it's not a ternary 9/8 measure (which is what anybody would think at first), or is he/she supposed to just find out by checking what's written in the piece?
Thank you one more time. Regards.
I'm writing a piece of music in 4/4 with one 9/8 measure in the middle, but it's not the expected ternary measure (three dotted-quarter beats) but just a regular 4/4 measure with one extra eighth note. No problem annotating this, but my question is: Is it supposed to exist an specific, different notation for this time signature that lets the player know that it's not a ternary 9/8 measure (which is what anybody would think at first), or is he/she supposed to just find out by checking what's written in the piece?
Thank you one more time. Regards.
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If I understand you correctly, your question is a layout question, right?
Here are some ideas:
The first example uses only the beaming to tell the beat pattern.
The second example adds an explanatory parenthesis above the staff.
The third example displays a compound time signature.
Here are some ideas:
The first example uses only the beaming to tell the beat pattern.
The second example adds an explanatory parenthesis above the staff.
The third example displays a compound time signature.
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Peter Thomsen wrote:If I understand you correctly, your question is a layout question, right?
Here are some ideas:
The first example uses only the beaming to tell the beat pattern.
The second example adds an explanatory parenthesis above the staff.
The third example displays a compound time signature.
Exactly. And the second option fits what I'm thinking of the best. Thank you very much!
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When I've had measures like that once in a while I have marked them 4 ½ over 4. Yeah, I know, sorta cutesy, but the song was humorous.
Bill
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Sounds like Percy Grainger. You're in good company!Bill Stevens wrote:When I've had measures like that once in a while I have marked them 4 ½ over 4. Yeah, I know, sorta cutesy, but the song was humorous.
Bill
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Why don't you set your time signature to 3/4 + 3/8 then? This would be much easier and faster to read for the musicians. Much better than the explaination above the system...Alvabass wrote:Exactly. And the second option fits what I'm thinking of the best. Thank you very much!
Peter
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