Expression assignment madness

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:29 pm

I know I posted about this in the old forums, but I don't remember if I found a solution.

In the attached, if I change the horizontal expression assignment to 10 EVPUs, the result is 20. If I try to then change it to 10, it goes back to zero. I think I even worked out an algorithm for its odd behavior beforfe--it goes twice the distance between old value and new, something like that. It seems to affect expressions with certain kinds of alignment points (like start of time signature and start of music) and not others.

It's unbelievable that such a basic feature has never been tested and found not to work. Is it fixed in V25? Any work-around other then using the half-the-distance formula?
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Post by N Grossingink » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:40 pm

I tried it with 2012 and v25 and the setting sticks - no error.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:57 pm

Did you use my attached file? How did you do it? (I'm right-clicking and picking "Edit expression assignment").

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:59 pm

Happens with 2011 as well. It seems unlikely that it was broken in 2011, fixed in 2012, broken in 2014.5, and fixed in 25, so there must be either a difference in how we're doing it or in our set-ups. I used the default document, by the way, which I haven't altered from what comes with Finale.

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Post by N Grossingink » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:04 pm

motet wrote:Did you use my attached file? How did you do it? (I'm right-clicking and picking "Edit expression assignment").
I used your attached file, opened in v25 and tried the settings. I used your right-click method. To try 2012, I exported from v25 to 2012 format.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:09 pm

Any idea what might be different for me, then? I had the same experience with 2011 as I say, so I don't think it's a corrupt preferences file or anything like that.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:28 pm

I think the answer is that the bug happens with the Selection tool but not the Expression tool.

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Post by N Grossingink » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:38 pm

motet wrote:I think the answer is that the bug happens with the Selection tool but not the Expression tool.
You're right - I get the error using the selection tool only.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:46 pm

I have reported it, along with this expression bug:
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