Whole bar rests in Rhythmic Notation staff style
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- apkyburz
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Hello Forum,
I'm getting strange whole bar rests in Rhythmic Notation.
Notation in other layers is not enabled in the "define staff styles" window
Anybody been through this?
Occurs on Finale 25, Mac.
Thanks,
A. P.
I'm getting strange whole bar rests in Rhythmic Notation.
Notation in other layers is not enabled in the "define staff styles" window
Anybody been through this?
Occurs on Finale 25, Mac.
Thanks,
A. P.
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- Peter Thomsen
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I suggest that you attach a (small) Finale sample document here.
Without an actual Finale document to examine we can only guess.
Without an actual Finale document to examine we can only guess.
Mac OS X 12.6.9 (Monterey), Finale user since 1996
- apkyburz
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That makes sense. Attached an extract.Peter Thomsen wrote:I suggest that you attach a (small) Finale sample document here.
Without an actual Finale document to examine we can only guess.
Best,
A. P.
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- zuill
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Very odd file. There are 19 staves at that place in the score and in other measures in the score. I don't see them in the score manager or Scroll view. I've tried to figure out what's up, but it escapes me.
Anyway, all 19 of those staves are overlapping each other at the point in question. The whole rest you see is from the other 18 staves. You might try deleting those other staves. I haven't even tried that yet, so not sure if these ghost staves are able to be deleted.
Zuill
P.S.: I tried to delete them, but in doing so, it deletes all the staves in the score.
Anyway, all 19 of those staves are overlapping each other at the point in question. The whole rest you see is from the other 18 staves. You might try deleting those other staves. I haven't even tried that yet, so not sure if these ghost staves are able to be deleted.
Zuill
P.S.: I tried to delete them, but in doing so, it deletes all the staves in the score.
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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Now the file crashes Finale. Definitely a corrupt file. You might want to start over. I wouldn't trust this file.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- apkyburz
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I have just found the same thing.zuill wrote:Now the file crashes Finale. Definitely a corrupt file. You might want to start over. I wouldn't trust this file.
Zuill
I was able to delete the mess without crashing Finale.
Best,
A. P.
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I am having the same or at least very similar problem: There appear to be other staves merged together, and this makes whole bar rests as well as other rests appear in the background behind actual notes. I have tried deleting the content of a measure, but when I enter new notes there are still those same persistent whole bar rests in the back. It looks like there are multi layers, however, when I select "Show active layer only" both of those elements still appear in the same layer.
What was also strange was that there were about a dozen random staff names to the left such as [Staff 18] [Staff 15] etc. I finally got those staff names to disappear when I un-selected "Show default staff names: from the staff menu. I still think however that there may be some correlation between those extra names having appeared and there being these extra layers of rests in the background.
By the way, when I go to the staff menu and select "Hide empty staves" it actually deletes some of the staves which really have music in them along with rests in the background. So that doesn't help.
Perhaps it is worth noting that these extra background rests only appear when in "Page view" and when I export to PDF. These extra rests however are not visible when in "Scroll view". (!?!?)
Something has gone terribly wrong, and ghost staves have been created. Please help me attempt to eliminate these extra layers.
How did any of you delete those rests??
This is a very large and complicated file with a deadline coming up soon. I simply can not start over.
thanks!
What was also strange was that there were about a dozen random staff names to the left such as [Staff 18] [Staff 15] etc. I finally got those staff names to disappear when I un-selected "Show default staff names: from the staff menu. I still think however that there may be some correlation between those extra names having appeared and there being these extra layers of rests in the background.
By the way, when I go to the staff menu and select "Hide empty staves" it actually deletes some of the staves which really have music in them along with rests in the background. So that doesn't help.
Perhaps it is worth noting that these extra background rests only appear when in "Page view" and when I export to PDF. These extra rests however are not visible when in "Scroll view". (!?!?)
Something has gone terribly wrong, and ghost staves have been created. Please help me attempt to eliminate these extra layers.
How did any of you delete those rests??
This is a very large and complicated file with a deadline coming up soon. I simply can not start over.
thanks!
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Luckily, I had a previous version of that file saved, and I was able to copy and paste enough from both to make a new version free of those errors. The only lesson here is to save multiple copies throughout various stages of your work. That one file is so screwed up that I wasted a whole evening trying to edit it.