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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:38 pm

I'm working on a score that has hit a dead end because of a failure to move one measure from a system to the beginning of a system on the following page. In the past I have been able to do this by selecting the measure and then using the up or down key to move it in either direction. For some reason on this particular score the measure refuses to move. I've unlocked systems, tried re-formatting the systems to a different size, etc. with no results.

Is there something that changed in Finale 25 that causes this to cease to work?


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Post by David Ward » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:43 pm

jdpmus wrote:… … …Is there something that changed in Finale 25 that causes this to cease to work?
It definitely still works for me.
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Post by miker » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:47 pm

Have you tried restarting the computer?
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Post by motet » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:48 pm

A couple of things to check:
  • Make sure Automatic Update Laout is on
  • Make sure you haven't inserted a manual page break at that point
  • Check the measure attributes for that measure and make sure "Begin a new staff system" is not checked.
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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:58 pm

Re-starting gives the same result.

Checked and automatic update layout is on and begin a new staff system is unchecked.

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Post by motet » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:59 pm

I just edited the above. Check the manual page break.

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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:19 pm

Where do I go to find the "manual page break"?

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Post by zuill » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:29 pm

The Page Layout Tool.

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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:38 pm

It seems that allows me to only move a system, not one measure.

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Post by zuill » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:50 pm

If there is a page break attached to the system at the top of a page, it won't allow you to move a measure there. Is there such a break applied?

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P.S.: It might be a good idea to spend some time reading about the Page Layout Tool in the manual. Possibly the information there will be of some help.
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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:31 pm

Good suggestion. Page layout tool has always been a mystery but I've been able to move measures before and it's puzzling why it's now stopped. Probably should also mention that the original file was a XML file from another source and there might be some issues there.

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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:32 pm

Thanks to all for the suggestions, Should keep me busy the rest of the afternoon :D

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Post by motet » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:57 pm

If you see a yellow icon at the upper left of the page in the Page Layout tool, that's a page break. Highlight that measure and there should be a command on the menu to remove it. MusicXML probably did insert it.

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Post by miker » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:04 pm

The Page Break icon:
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Post by jdpmus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:18 pm

Great. Now I know what to look for.

Thanks again!

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Post by ebiggs1 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:53 pm

Sometimes when you scan music or import midi you will get an unwanted page break. Not that you did but I also believe the page break is your problem. How it got there....?
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