chord symbol: semidiminished 7

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Post by jose oscar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 pm

m. 1 in the score: when I try to add a 7 to the semidiminished symbol ( slashed circle) the chord symbll changes to ¿7

I appreciate your help

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Post by zuill » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:37 pm

Did you create this suffix yourself? The half diminished symbol (o with a slash through it) had the wrong font selected.

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Post by michelp » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:02 pm

This symbol is present in slot # 89 in your default file. You may have to find the keyboard equivalent (which may vary between systems and keyboards). Try ¯ (#175).
Check your file. I changed the half diminished symbol to Helvetica 10 (instead of Maestro, wrong in the default file), lowered it a bit, but you can fine tune that.
semidiminished%207%20Finaleforum bak.musx
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Post by zuill » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:31 pm

I believe what was wanted was the symbol and the 7. I know that may be redundant, but is in common use. To invoke the symbol the % sign is used. However, if doing that and then entering the 7, it doesn't recognize the suffix, as it doesn't exist with both the symbol and the 7. By clicking yes, and creating it (which I believe is what happened), the wrong font was chosen for the symbol. I changed it to Maestro and all was well (with a bit of adjusting of position of the 2 characters).

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Post by jose oscar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:03 pm

zuill wrote:Did you create this suffix yourself? The half diminished symbol (o with a slash through it) had the wrong font selected.

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Thank you, Zuill.
No, I didn't create that suffix: iot's suffix n. 89

The one you put is the one I haven't found and I was lookingfor. What number is it, please?

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Post by jose oscar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:07 pm

michelp wrote:This symbol is present in slot # 89 in your default file. You may have to find the keyboard equivalent (which may vary between systems and keyboards). Try ¯ (#175).
Check your file. I changed the half diminished symbol to Helvetica 10 (instead of Maestro, wrong in the default file), lowered it a bit, but you can fine tune that.
semidiminished%207%20Finaleforum bak.musx
Thank you, michelp, but for some unknown reason I cannot open your file

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Post by jose oscar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:09 pm

zuill wrote:I believe what was wanted was the symbol and the 7. I know that may be redundant, but is in common use. To invoke the symbol the % sign is used. However, if doing that and then entering the 7, it doesn't recognize the suffix, as it doesn't exist with both the symbol and the 7. By clicking yes, and creating it (which I believe is what happened), the wrong font was chosen for the symbol. I changed it to Maestro and all was well (with a bit of adjusting of position of the 2 characters).

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How could I import your symbol into my palette of chor symbols, zuill?

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Post by zuill » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:25 pm

First off, it was not slot 89 in your file. It was slot 132.

To get this into another file, the easiest way is to copy the measure from my file into yours. The suffix I created will be in the next available slot, which, in your file, would be slot 133. I didn't bother with the playback definition of your suffix when I fixed it. You'll have to do that.

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P.S.: You didn't design the playback for suffix 132. It appears you had chord symbol playback turned off anyway.
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Post by michelp » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:29 pm

Strange that you cannot open my file.
You can try this : edit suffix #89 and change its font from Maestro to another text font.
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Post by zuill » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:17 am

I was able to open your file. Slot 89 was just fine and didn't need any editing. The problem was with slot 132, which had the erroneous font applied. That was the issue with the file. There was no need to edit slot 89.

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Post by jose oscar » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:03 am

zuill wrote:First off, it was not slot 89 in your file. It was slot 132.

To get this into another file, the easiest way is to copy the measure from my file into yours. The suffix I created will be in the next available slot, which, in your file, would be slot 133. I didn't bother with the playback definition of your suffix when I fixed it. You'll have to do that.

Zuill

P.S.: You didn't design the playback for suffix 132. It appears you had chord symbol playback turned off anyway.
Thank you very much, Zuill,
I imported the meausure from your file

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Post by jose oscar » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:05 am

jose oscar wrote:
zuill wrote:First off, it was not slot 89 in your file. It was slot 132.

To get this into another file, the easiest way is to copy the measure from my file into yours. The suffix I created will be in the next available slot, which, in your file, would be slot 133. I didn't bother with the playback definition of your suffix when I fixed it. You'll have to do that.

Zuill

P.S.: You didn't design the playback for suffix 132. It appears you had chord symbol playback turned off anyway.
Thank you very much, Zuill,
I imported the meausure from your file and is slot 133

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Post by jose oscar » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:15 am

jose oscar wrote:
jose oscar wrote:
zuill wrote:First off, it was not slot 89 in your file. It was slot 132.

To get this into another file, the easiest way is to copy the measure from my file into yours. The suffix I created will be in the next available slot, which, in your file, would be slot 133. I didn't bother with the playback definition of your suffix when I fixed it. You'll have to do that.

Zuill

P.S.: You didn't design the playback for suffix 132. It appears you had chord symbol playback turned off anyway.
Thank you very much, Zuill,
I imported the meausure from your file and is slot 133

Thank you, michelp, too

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