Finale Forum

See below. The violin 1 and 2 tremolos I manually positioned. The viola and cello tremolos are where Finale put them automatically.
Where should they go? I always thought tremolos should go where the stem would be if notes had one. Why does Finale put it in such a strange spot?

Thanks!
Dan

Finale does odd things at times. For this, Jari has a plugin to fix things easily. It is the Yada Yada Tremolo plugin. You can even adjust settings used with this plugin.

Zuill

Can you write them using the Easy Tremolos plug-in?

That is for a different type of tremolo. The stacked notes with the 3 slashes means both notes being bowed multiple times. The one with separated notes and 3 slashes between means alternating between 2 different notes, generally under one bow movement.

Zuill

Ah, thanks, Zuill! Always more to learn.

This is a bug in Finale wherein "note side" and "stem side" are reversed for whole notes. It can be solved by making a different articulation to use with whole notes from that used with stemmed notes. Below is what I do. Notice it uses "note side."

JW Yadda Yadda is great, but you may find yourself running it again and again. I've found that by fixing the definitions of the tremolos, JW Yadda Yadda is mostly not necessary. The only time I use it is when there are tremolos on beamed or flagged notes. I've changed the single-, double-, and triple-slash articulations for stemmed notes in addition to adding the triple-slashed below for wholes notes. I can probably attach a library of these if anyone is interested.

miker wrote:Ah, thanks, Zuill! Always more to learn.

it's not your fault. The tremolos the OP was specifically asking about actually don't show in his image unless you scroll down... they are in the viola and cello sections, rather than the violins.

Apropos of nothing in particular, my eye has noticed that the Violin I tremolos in the first three bars might be in need of aligning, so as to be consistent.

Hector.

Michel R E wrote:

miker wrote:Ah, thanks, Zuill! Always more to learn.

it's not your fault. The tremolos the OP was specifically asking about actually don't show in his image unless you scroll down... they are in the viola and cello sections, rather than the violins.

Thanks, but I still wouldn’t have known they were to be played as a double stop. Would brackets ever be used in this situation, or would it be assumed that if you play the instrument, you know what it means?

Since we can only see a small portion, we don't know all that might be there. If it said divisi somewhere, then the notes would be split between players. Sometimes brackets are used for double stops for clarity. I can't really say here what the context is here without more information or a bigger view of the score.

Zuill

Double stop or divisi, it's still different from the tremolo between two notes.

If those tremolos are divisi, which I hope they are, there should be a tremolo mark above the top voice and an additional one below the bottom voice, each centered on the notehead.

N.

N Grossingink wrote:If those tremolos are divisi, which I hope they are, there should be a tremolo mark above the top voice and an additional one below the bottom voice, each centered on the notehead.

I'm not sure it's really necessary, when the rhythm is simple and the same in the two parts, to have the tremolo both above and below. In a different situation, were things to get noticeably more complicated, the string section principals to whom I've spoken would normally prefer a stave for each line of a divisi (in the parts at least - the score might be moot). Clearly, one stave for each string section is OK in the OP's original example (for both score and parts).

I haven't checked the ‘official’ advice from Gould &c, but will.

Generally, divisi doesn't need to be notated (at least in my circles). Players will always divide unless you write "non div" or use a bracket. And sometimes they'll ignore it, and divide anyways. lol. Nobody plays double stops unless they're forced to.

Of course I agree with David - if it gets complex, individual parts are best.

Whether it's divisi or not, only one tremolo is needed.