Override "Consolidate rests across layers"

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Post by peterqd » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:15 pm

In ver 26.3 there is a very useful setting I've discovered which will superimpose rests of similar value in different layers vertically. It's in Document Options>Layers>Consolidate rests across layers checkbox. I must say this is a great time-saver!

I'm writing a standard drum part where I'm using this feature, but there is at least one bar where I'd like to override the consolidate setting if that's possible.

The measure (in cut time) is as follows: (I hope this aligns OK)

Layer 1: qtr note qtr rest half rest
Layer 2: qtr note qtr rest qtr note qtr rest

It looks messy to me with the rests on the 2nd beat consolidated and the 4th not. I'd like to separate the rests on the 2nd beat. Any ideas?
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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:22 pm

There are 2 options that I know of for a case by case basis: Using the Speedy Edit Frame (uncheck Combine rest) or with Jari's JW Change plugin.

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Post by peterqd » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:45 pm

Thankyou! I don't understand where to "uncheck Combine rests" but with your help I found one has to position the speedy cursor over the rests and hit letter S. The rests split when you exit the frame.

I haven't looked closely at Jari's plugins yet. It's only now that I'm using an up-to-date version where they can be applied, and I'm too busy at present to spare time on it. Something for after Christmas I think!

Thanks once again.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:49 pm

The "busy at present to spare time on it" is the best reason to d/l it and use it. There is an almost no learning curve for JW Change. It puts most of the things in one menu. Just some clicks away.
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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:15 pm

peterqd wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:45 pm
Thankyou! I don't understand where to "uncheck Combine rests" but with your help I found one has to position the speedy cursor over the rests and hit letter S. The rests split when you exit the frame.
Sorry that I forgot about that shortcut. Works in Simple entry as well. That's the easiest way.

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Post by peterqd » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:50 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:49 pm
The "busy at present to spare time on it" is the best reason to d/l it and use it. There is an almost no learning curve for JW Change. It puts most of the things in one menu. Just some clicks away.
Thanks. I've downloaded it and hopefully I'll install and investigate it later.

I do take your point, but my time is mostly taken up caring for my wife who has advanced Parkinson's Disease, and any time I get to spend on the computer is generally in short snatches. I've been lucky today as there's been a care worker with her. :)

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:07 pm

The JW Change plugin is a time saver. You will eventually appreciate its power.

Sometimes we on the forum don't know all there is in the lives of fellow users. We are all people with a variety of life issues. All the best to you and your family and keep strong as you meet the needs of those around you.

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Post by peterqd » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:54 pm

zuill wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:07 pm
Sometimes we on the forum don't know all there is in the lives of fellow users. We are all people with a variety of life issues. All the best to you and your family and keep strong as you meet the needs of those around you.

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Thankyou Zuill. No offence was taken or intended but if my words gave that impression, my apologies.
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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:55 pm

Not at all. No offence. I just wanted to wish you well when I read what you are going through.

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Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:45 pm

...my time is mostly taken up caring for my wife who has advanced Parkinson's Disease,...

Here is wishing all the best to you. So sorry as I know, first hand, how debilitating that can be. I hope you do get some quality time to spend on your music.
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