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Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:34 pm
by Tomas E
In a SATB score where all staves have the same rhythm:
Playback issue.png

If I choose 'None' from the Human Playback Menu all staves play back normally.

If I solo one of the staves in the Vienna Ensemble plugin the soloed stave plays back normally even when using a HP style.

How do I make all staves play back as they are written when using a HP style and all staves are audible (unmuted)?

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:38 pm
by Tomas E
I tried using the Kontakt 6 plugin as well as the ARIA Player and it's still the same. So it's not plugin related.

Seems as if a visit to the Finale Help Center is needed. I guess I need to change something in the playback settings.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:32 pm
by motet
I would try different HP settings--Standard, Classical, Romantic, etc.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:48 pm
by Tomas E
motet wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:32 pm
I would try different HP settings--Standard, Classical, Romantic, etc.
I've tried all the different settings normally used for SATB Choir including 21st century.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:58 pm
by Tomas E
Of course it could be because it's an older document that has been converted from previous versions, a couple of times maybe. Then there seems to be a lot of unexpected things that can happen.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:13 pm
by motet
Try selecting all, then Edit/Clear Selected Items. In the ensuing dialog, click None, then MIDI data.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:15 pm
by Tomas E
Thanks for the suggestion, motet.

However no luck with that one either, it still sounds the same.

(Typo)

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:12 am
by motet
How does this file play back for you?

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:17 pm
by Tomas E
motet wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:12 am
How does this file play back for you?
It plays back correctly. On the other hand it's only one staff in you score which doesn't seem to be a problem. The problem seems to be when several staves have the same rhythm.

I also got this dialog when opening the VST banks and effects to load instruments. Where can I find an update of the Aria Player and do I really need to update it? From what I understand the Aria Player is installed with Finale.
ARIA Session Loader.png

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:22 am
by motet
I don't think you need to worry about it.

Can you attach a file exhibiting the problem? It only need be a few measures.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:08 pm
by Tomas E
Strange, I don't have the issue at this moment.

I opened the document, copied the measure in question and pasted it into a new document. It plays back correctly with the Vienna Ensemble plugin. Then I went back to the original score and played it back, no issue there either. 😕

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:21 pm
by Tomas E
Now the issue has returned, not in the new file though, only in the orignal one.

I'm not sure whether I pressed the play button the first time or if I just clicked in the score. Clicking in the score means no human playback is added. As you probably know one has to click the play button for HP styles to be included.

Is there a problem with the old original document then? After a while the playback cursor starts getting behind, not in sync with the score.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:18 pm
by motet
Hard to say without seeing your score.

Yes, Ctrl+click to start playback bypasses Human Playback.

Re: Dotted quarternotes are played back with no dot

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:40 pm
by Tomas E
There are other playback issues I need to fix as well so I'm going to use my DAW for the playback instead of Finale.

Anyway, thanks motet for trying to help me figure it out! :)