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overlap instability
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:27 pm
by musicus
On the attached page I'm trying to get some stability in
the positioning, meas.3, top layer. Whenever I drag the first note (G, dotted quarter) to the right, and the whole note G (lower layer) to the left so that the dot is visible, it reverts back to the appearance you can see here, and the dot is inside the whole note. I know how to drag. How do I keep the positioning stable so that we see the whole note and then, to the right, the dotted quarter? Thanks.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:46 pm
by michelp
A solution would be to swap the layers. I used the JW Staff Polyphony plug-in -> Layers -> Swap (1 & 2) and got the result shown in the first image (except for the red tie). This places the whole note to the left of the dotted quarter and leaves the dot visible. Just flip the tie in Layer 2. Other solutions are possible flipping the stems if you want.
3 variations :
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:22 pm
by musicus
Sorry, I must be blind but I don't see JW as one of the plugins nor do I see it anywhere.
michelp wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:46 pm
A solution would be to swap the layers. I used the JW Staff Polyphony plug-in -> Layers -> Swap (1 & 2) and got the result shown in the first image (except for the red tie). This places the whole note to the left of the dotted quarter and leaves the dot visible. Just flip the tie in Layer 2. Other solutions are possible flipping the stems if you want. 3 solutions :
swap.jpg
2.jpg
3.jpg
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:38 pm
by michelp
You have to download it here :
http://www.finaletips.nu/index.php/down ... c-plug-ins
Unzip the file and place the jwstaffpolyphony64.bundle file in your plug-ins folder.
Finder : Go ► Computer
Then :
"Your disk" ► Library ► Application Support ► MakeMusic ► Finale 26 ► Plug-ins (or create a subfolder in it)
P.S.: if you are not familiar with the JW plug-ins, check what is available and at least get JW Change, the most powerful one.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:58 am
by motet
You don't need a JW plug-in to swap layers. Edit menu, Move/Copy layers.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:08 am
by musicus
Thanks.
michelp wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:38 pm
You have to download it here :
http://www.finaletips.nu/index.php/down ... c-plug-ins
Unzip the file and place the jwstaffpolyphony64.bundle file in your plug-ins folder.
Finder : Go ► Computer
Then :
"Your disk" ► Library ► Application Support ► MakeMusic ► Finale 26 ► Plug-ins (or create a subfolder in it)
P.S.: if you are not familiar with the JW plug-ins, check what is available and at least get JW Change, the most powerful one.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:08 am
by musicus
Thanks!
motet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:58 am
You don't need a JW plug-in to swap layers. Edit menu, Move/Copy layers.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:31 pm
by musicus
It says this action will overwrite existing data. It winds up with only one layer.
musicus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:08 am
Thanks!
motet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:58 am
You don't need a JW plug-in to swap layers. Edit menu, Move/Copy layers.
Re: overlap instability
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:01 pm
by musicus
Here's a notation I made regarding overlapping, which I'd like
to share: Prefs/edit/auto music spacing uncheck. It seems easier for me.
Thanks to all for the replies.
musicus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:27 pm
On the attached page I'm trying to get some stability in
the positioning, meas.3, top layer. Whenever I drag the first note (G, dotted quarter) to the right, and the whole note G (lower layer) to the left so that the dot is visible, it reverts back to the appearance you can see here, and the dot is inside the whole note. I know how to drag. How do I keep the positioning stable so that we see the whole note and then, to the right, the dotted quarter? Thanks.