Some notes in Voice 2 not playing. (Solved)

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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:28 pm

Some notes in voice 2 not sounding, while other do. ( See Attachments)
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Post by Michel R E » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:58 pm

When you have a short note value in one layer and a long note value in another layer that coincide, the short value's "MIDI Off" signal will turn the long note off.

Imagine if you will, a quarter note and a half note unison.
Both notes send a "MIDI On" message to whatever playback device you are using.
Now, the quarter note ends and sends its "MIDI Off" instruction.

How does the playback device know whether it should accept that "Note Off" information, or ignore it and continue sounding the longer note value that is overlapping?

From my experience, the only way to deal with this sort of thing is to have both a playback and a printing file.
In the playback file I would simply remove any unisons.
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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:23 pm

Michel R E wrote:When you have a short note value in one layer and a long note value in another layer that coincide, the short value's "MIDI Off" signal will turn the long note off.

Imagine if you will, a quarter note and a half note unison.
Both notes send a "MIDI On" message to whatever playback device you are using.
Now, the quarter note ends and sends its "MIDI Off" instruction.

How does the playback device know whether it should accept that "Note Off" information, or ignore it and continue sounding the longer note value that is overlapping?

From my experience, the only way to deal with this sort of thing is to have both a playback and a printing file.
In the playback file I would simply remove any unisons.
Sounds logical but look at measure 2. The tied dotted 1/4 note C# in the 2nd Voice does not sound. There is no conflict with a note in this instance.
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Post by zuill » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:48 pm

Does this play back better?

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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:52 pm

zuill wrote:Does this play back better?

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Yes. Did you find the problem?
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Post by zuill » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:09 pm

Yes. You had some of the notes muted. I unmuted them. I found this information by going into the Speedy Edit Frame. When in Layer 2, I scrolled through the notes and found the Playback button unchecked. By checking it, playback was restored.

By the way, your question asked about Voice 2, but this is actually Layer 2. Voices are a different matter.

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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:30 pm

zuill wrote:Yes. You had some of the notes muted. I unmuted them. I found this information by going into the Speedy Edit Frame. When in Layer 2, I scrolled through the notes and found the Playback button unchecked. By checking it, playback was restored.

By the way, your question asked about Voice 2, but this is actually Layer 2. Voices are a different matter.

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Funny, I just did the same thing and found the playback button checked.
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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:32 pm

Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I never use speedy entry so i'm not so familiar with it.
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Post by zuill » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:02 pm

When in Speedy Entry, and in Layer 2, option-click the measure needing editing. You need to click next to scroll through the notes to get to the ones for which Playback is unchecked.

Here's the page from the Mac version of the manual: https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... FRMDLG.htm

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Post by NickG » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:32 pm

zuill wrote:When in Speedy Entry, and in Layer 2, option-click the measure needing editing. You need to click next to scroll through the notes to get to the ones for which Playback is unchecked.

Here's the page from the Mac version of the manual: https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... FRMDLG.htm

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