Urgent! Gradual tempo decrease cancellation

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Sohrab
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Post by Sohrab » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:56 pm

I've had set something to decrease the tempo gradually for the last bar of my music. Now i want to set it back to original constant tempo. But i don remember which setting did i adjust so to make the reverse action. Thanks for assisstance mates. I've got finale last version on windows. I'm in rush for finishing the project.


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Post by zuill » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:13 pm

Depends on how you did things. How did you get the rit?

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Post by Sohrab » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:59 am

Mate, i've really got no idea how did i do that since i've done it long time ago.. So how many ways are there to do that? Think i should check them all to see which one works. It's just one bar..

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Post by Sohrab » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:01 am

zuill wrote:Depends on how you did things. How did you get the rit?

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Think i should have replied this way huh? :)

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Post by motet » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:32 am

Try selecting that bar (and may one or two on either side) and from the Edit menu pick Clear Selected Items. In the ensuing dialog, first click the None button, then check the MIDI Data box and click OK.

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Post by Sohrab » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:47 am

Didn't work.. Still i've got tempo decrease on last 2 beats of the bar...

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:10 am

Perhaps the culprit is Human Playback?

Try setting Human Playback style to “None”.

Does that help?
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Post by Sohrab » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:16 pm

Owww yes! Thanks a lot! Please kindly tell me a bit about how the problem has happened.. What does it have to do with human playback. Many thanks again

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:18 pm

Sohrab wrote:… What does it have to do with human playback …
That is what Human Playback does - interpret the music so that it sounds more like a human performer, and less like a cold, dead, mechanical, mathematical machine.

To see what Human Playback can do, look in the Playback Controls.
Expand the window Playback Controls (I am not sure how, but perhaps via clicking a speaker icon).
In the expanded window, in the pop up menu Human Playback style, choose the bottom item “Custom…”.

You get to the dialog box Human Playback® Custom Style where you can see a lot of options for the interpretation.
In the pane Interpret you have the option “Final Bars” which possibly could be the culprit.
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Post by Sohrab » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:31 pm

Thanks alot Peter for your kind replies. Helped me a lot. Cheers man :)

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Post by Michel R E » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:39 pm

you have a choice in HumanPlayback to either add a rit or not at the end of a piece.
so you can still have HP (which will recognize all of your notation) without it adding a tempo change at the end.
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Post by David Ward » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:27 pm

Although it's not actually a problem once identified and turned off, the HP ‘final bars’ setting seems a bit whimsical. I can think of lots of pieces that get maniacally fast at the end, and at least as many whose final bars are in the same tempo as those immediately preceding them. Only some pieces benefit from a final rit., so why is that apparently the HP default?
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