Human playback no longer available in staff sets?

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sojay
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Post by sojay » Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:09 pm

I just upgraded from 25 to 27 and am surprised to see that I can’t get human playback to function while in scroll view and a staff set. Could it be that such a useful thing has taken a step backwards with the upgrade?

Human playback works in page view, parts, studio view, but the one view I use the most, staff view subset to eliminate from the screen the staves I’m not dealing with, human playback seems to be disabled. Is this normal or something I can try to fix?

And if this really has been eliminated as a function, PLEASE bring it back! It works fine in my old version 25. Dynamics, trills, glisses, etc.

Thanks.


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Post by heinzfan » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:16 am

I just tested it and as you report, it doesn't work. I also tested it on ver. 26 - doesn't work there either. Suggest you fill out a bug report with MakeMusic, for all the good it will do.
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Post by motet » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:36 am

Hmm, it works for me with Finale 27! Could be Windows vs Mac. Can you double-check heinzfan? Make sure it plays in Page mode.
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Post by motet » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:46 am

If you want, sojay, attach your file or part of it here and tell me which staves are in your staff set, and I'll try it. Meanwhile, see if this works:
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Post by heinzfan » Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:55 pm

Motet, your file works - until you put notes in one of the other staves. Then HP doesn't play. Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I believe the OP is correct. I use Windows so it's not Win vs Mac.
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Post by motet » Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:17 pm

HP still plays for me with notes in other staves. Maybe you can upload a file demonstrating the problem?
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Post by heinzfan » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:17 pm

Motet - your example works as long as notes have been entered in the staff above the whole note staff. Move those notes to the fourth stave with a blank staff above the whole note one, and HP doesn't work when staff set 2 and 4 is selected. Try it and let us know the results. It's a curiosity.
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Post by motet » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:10 pm

You're right--it seems that if the top staff is empty in that measure, HP doesn't play. The work-around, then, would be to add a staff at the top of the piece, fill it with real whole rests with the plug-in, then hide it.
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