Will Finale 2009 on El Capitan work

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Capricorn
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Post by Capricorn » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:10 pm

I'm thinking of upgrading my Mac OS X 10.6.8 to El Capitan but I don't know if my Finale 2009 will work on it. All of my files are in Finale 2009 or earlier and I'm very comfortable with that version.
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Post by MikeHalloran » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:55 pm

It won't install in 10.11 but may fire up if you update the OS. It may or may not give you limited functionality with Human Playback disabled. About a 100% of it crashing if HP is enabled. There are many other incompatibilities.

In my case. Finale 2009 really screwed up my system when I upgraded to OS 10.8.2. The 2009 Help files were the offending library and deleting them made my system better. By then, I was running 2011 so I deleted 2009 and never gave it a second thought — till now. YMMV.

Console.app was my friend when diagnosing the 2009 Help file issue. I could see it trying to load with many applications and causing them to crash.

There were two other applications that gave me grief as well but I was able to find those in the crash reports—in both cases, those had offending .kext files that El Cap will sandbag and not allow to load, a different situation with Mountain Lion back then. CodaMusic played fast and loose with the Apple Toolkit back then — if critical files in the System, 2009 will not find them causing it not to start.
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Post by BuonTempi » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:50 pm

If you're going to upgrade the OS -- particularly such a big leap from 10.6 to 10.11 -- then you should be prepared to update all your apps to versions that will work with the new OS.

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Post by MikeHalloran » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:10 pm

BuonTempi wrote:If you're going to upgrade the OS -- particularly such a big leap from 10.6 to 10.11 -- then you should be prepared to update all your apps to versions that will work with the new OS.
Basically yes. There are some old apps that won't install but will still work including some from Adobe and Microsoft. Office 2004 will not work while 2008 will if the OS is upgraded. If an app requires Rosetta to run in 10.6.8, it is PPC only and there's no chance of you being able to make it run after the upgrade.

Research is required.

I'm curious: Why El Cap and not Sierra? Is it an older Mac that can't run 10.12 without the hack?
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