Hiding Beams
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I'm inputting Harmonic Glissandi, and in order to get the stemless, beamless notes in a 4/4 bar, I have created quarter notes without stems and changed the stem head. However, I can't find a way to completely hide the beams. I can reduce their length, but there's still a speck of ink that I can't hide. There is probably a better way to create these notes. Any ideas about that or about hiding beams? Thanks!
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- Peter Thomsen
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Welcome to the forum!
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Assuming that you are using the "full Finale", here are some ideas:
1) You can create stemless notes via a custom staff style.
A custom staff style is a good choice for changing all the notes in a selected region.
2) To hide the stem of a single, individual note, use the Special Tools Tool sub-tool Custom Stem Tool.
Replace the stem with a custom shape.
In the Shape Designer, create an empty shape.
3) To hide beams, enter the notes as tuplet quarters, e. g. "4 Quarters in the space of 4 Sixteenths".
Set the tuplet to display "Nothing".
Please include pertinent details in your posts, especially if you are a first time poster.
Software version (Finale, PrintMusic, Notepad, etc.) and year (10, 11, 12, 14…) are beneficial.
Also, details about your operating system can expedite answers.
Consider putting this in your signature line (bottom of your post) to save having to re-enter it each post.
Assuming that you are using the "full Finale", here are some ideas:
1) You can create stemless notes via a custom staff style.
A custom staff style is a good choice for changing all the notes in a selected region.
2) To hide the stem of a single, individual note, use the Special Tools Tool sub-tool Custom Stem Tool.
Replace the stem with a custom shape.
In the Shape Designer, create an empty shape.
3) To hide beams, enter the notes as tuplet quarters, e. g. "4 Quarters in the space of 4 Sixteenths".
Set the tuplet to display "Nothing".
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Thanks, Peter!
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I'm trying show a specific scale I want used during a solo in the first bar of the solo and I ran across this post from 2014. Why? Because it's a double harmonic major scale and most players, at least the ones I know, don't know what that is. So I've tried to do as suggested below: I created an 8-tuplet fitting 8 quarter notes into the space of 8 eight notes. It works great til I try to enter that last (8th) note. I can't. If I get out of Simple Note Entry, a 16th note rest appears after the 7 quarter notes I've entered. I can delete the rest but I still can't enter that last quarter note, and again if I get out of Note Entry, 16th note rest reappears. As an alternative, I've tried using two 4-tuplets with 4 quarter notes fitting into the space of 8 eigth notes. The first tuplet enters fine, but I have the same problem in the second tuplet - it will not accept the final quarter note. Am I missing something obvious?
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- motet
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In Simple Entry, enter your first quarter as an ordinary quarter, then press Alt+Keypad9 and pick 8 quarters in the space of 8 eighths. That should work.
(Alt on the Mac is either Command or Option--I can never remember which.)
(Alt on the Mac is either Command or Option--I can never remember which.)
To hide beams, simply un-beam these notes, and than hide stems. You don't need tuplets actually, correct?Peter Thomsen wrote: 3) To hide beams, enter the notes as tuplet quarters, e. g. "4 Quarters in the space of 4 Sixteenths".
Set the tuplet to display "Nothing".
Un-check "check for extra notes" in Simply settings.gbluhm wrote:it will not accept the final quarter note. Am I missing something obvious?
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- Peter Thomsen
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Actually, the faster way is to use the staff style Stemless Notes.OCTO wrote:… To hide beams, simply un-beam these notes, and then hide stems. You don't need tuplets actually, correct? …
Both stems and beams will be hidden “at one fell swoop”.
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- michelp
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The JW Change plug-in can also be helpful.
Stems -> Visibility -> Hide
Beams -> Visibility -> Hide.
Stems -> Visibility -> Hide
Beams -> Visibility -> Hide.
Michel
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MacOsX 12.7.4, Finale 27.4.1 & 26.3.1, Mac Mini Intel Dual Core i7 3Ghz, 16 Go Ram. Azerty kb. MOTU Midi Express XT USB, Roland Sound Canvas SC-88vl, MOTU Audio Express. 2 monitors (27"' pivot, 24'"), JW Lua, RGP Lua
Thanks to everyone for your help!
Motet, I tried your way and it worked. I didn't know about Alt-9 and I don't understand why it works and what I did doesn't, but who cares. But I did then have to manually remove the stems and the tuplet bracket. Of course, it only took seconds to do, but I tried Peter's method, which it turns out is extremely simple. I hadn't realized there was already a Stemless Notes staff style. I just used 8th notes and Stemless Notes and voila. As Finale used to say, and maybe they still do, there's more than one way to do something.
Thanks again!
Motet, I tried your way and it worked. I didn't know about Alt-9 and I don't understand why it works and what I did doesn't, but who cares. But I did then have to manually remove the stems and the tuplet bracket. Of course, it only took seconds to do, but I tried Peter's method, which it turns out is extremely simple. I hadn't realized there was already a Stemless Notes staff style. I just used 8th notes and Stemless Notes and voila. As Finale used to say, and maybe they still do, there's more than one way to do something.
Thanks again!
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