# e b differents to key

[terprando]

Excuse me for my english.
I would to change the # (F#) to c# as the first alteration. It's possible?
For example I Would: First the violin key and after C#

Thank you

[miker]

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean. Can you post a picture?

[Peter Thomsen]

Welcome to the forum!

I could be wrong here, but I think that you mean a non-standard key signature with one sharp for C only.
See the attached graphic.

One sharp - for C

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Unfortunately you can't create that in SongWriter.
You will need the "full Finale" to do so.

[terprando]

Thank you for your response!

The image is an example pefect!
But whit finale 2010 it's possible? .....

[Peter Thomsen]

Yes, if you have Finale 2010 you can do it.

See the attached Finale 2010 document.

[terprando]

It's perfect!
How I can do it?

Thanks in advance

[Peter Thomsen]

Here are the steps.
If you open my example document "NonstandardKeySignature.mus" with Finale 2010, you should be able to follow the steps.

1) Key Signature Tool.
Double-click the first measure.
The dialog box Key Signature appears.

Key Signature

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2) In the pop up menu at the top of the dialog box, choose "Nonstandard…"
The dialog box Nonstandard Key Signature appears.

Nonstandard Key Signature

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3) Click the button "Next" twice to get to Linear Key Format 2.

(For Your Information: Linear Key Format 0 is "hardwired" as major key signatures, and Linear Key Format 1 is "hardwired" as minor key signatures. You can not customize these two Linear Key Formats with neither "Key Step Map", "Accidental Order and Amount" nor "Tone Center"; the three buttons "Key Map", "Acc. Order" and "Tone Center" are greyed out)

In the dialog box Nonstandard Key Signature you can adjust the number of accidentals via the black triangles.
The "up-pointing" triangle moves the key signature in the "sharp direction" - 1, 2, 3, … sharps.
The "down-pointing" triangle moves the key signature in the "flat direction" - 1, 2, 3, … flats.

4) Click the button "Acc. Order".
The dialog box Accidental Order and Amount" appears.

Accidental Order and Amount

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You can navigate through the accidentals by clicking the buttons "Prev" and "Next".
Unit 1 is the first accidental in the "sharp" section.
(By The Way: If you click "Prev", you will navigate in the "flat direction". Unit -1 is the first accidental in the "flat" section.)

5) You want the Step Level for Unit 1 to be 0 (= C).

Table of Step Levels:
B = 6
A = 5
G = 4
F = 3
E = 2
D = 1
C = 0
Get it?

(You want the Amount for Unit 1 to be 1, since you want a sharp. Changing the Amount to -1 will change the accidental to a flat. Get it?)

6) When you return to the score, you may find that the key signature (= one sharp for C) displays an octave too high/low in some clefs.
You can correct the key signature's "accidental octave" in the various clefs by going back to the dialog box Nonstandard Key Signature, and clicking the button "Acc. Octaves".
In the dialog box Accidental Octave Placement you should know that Clef 0 is the Treble Clef, Clef 1 is the Alto Clef, Clef 2 is the Tenor Clef, Clef 3 is the Bass Clef &c.
In Other Words:
The clef order is the same as in Finale's dialog box Clef Designer (Document Options - Clefs > Clef Designer).

I hope that this is clear?
If not, ask again.

[terprando]

It 's been hard but I made it!

Some things are hard with the finale!

Thank you thank you thank you and congratulations for your preparation.

[terprando]

Take advantage of your kindness......
I would delete "hide" the natural sign of this image....

It's possible whit nostandard or there is another possibility?

[Peter Thomsen]

Document Options - Key Signature

De-select "Cancel Outgoing Key Signature".
See the screen shot.

[terprando]

Thank you so much, you helped me solve this problem too!

[terprando]

Hi! I have always!
MakeMusic organizes for the use of the final?
I wanted to ask your advice........
I would write one page similar enclosure....

object circled in red is a image o it's possible to create whit FINALE (smallest bat whit measure wider respect to partiture)


I think there is no way to be able to create:
1. enter a previously prepared
2. create a score to 4 parts and hide the measure that does not serve
3. in "Page layout tools" to create a "system" with only two Measures and make it smaller

But ...

1. weighs down the page and opens very bad
2. measures have not hidden the same width as the measures of the other lines
3. Perhaps the best solution but is a bit complex

What do you think? There are other solutions are simpler and less complicated?

[Peter Thomsen]

I am not sure I understand, but take a look at the attached Finale 2010 document.

Is that what you want to do?

[terprando]

Yes! Is the third solution I proposed!
You understand perfectly what I meant!
So I will use this solution to continue my work even if it is a little bit complex.

Thank you very much

[terprando]

Hello, I'm still here.
I would remove the "bracket" the measure No. 1, but I would leave it as far as No. 2.
As in your example "StaffRange.mus".
I can not remove the bracket only in the first measure.

Thank you

[Peter Thomsen]

To remove the staff group bracket from only the first system (Finale 2010):

Page Layout Tool.
Click the first system to select it.

Page Layout menu > Systems > Allow Individual Staff Spacing

Finale displays a special icon at the right end of the system when you have enabled "Allow Individual Staff Spacing" for that system.
"Allow Individual Staff Spacing" also means "Allow Individual Staff System Editing".

Switch to the Staff Tool.

Drag-select the handle on the group bracket in the first system.
Staff menu > Edit Group Attributes…

In the top of the dialog Edit Group Attributes you will see that it says "Staff List: Staff System 1".
This means that your edits will affect the staff group in System 1 only.
Set the broup bracket to "NONE".

[terprando]

Thanks again!
I would not have succeeded mei!