Special Tools
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- Finale Version: SongWriter 2012
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Hi
the first time i used songwriter 2012 i had access to the special tools (hammer icon), but it disappeared and i did not mind, since i didn't need it for a while.
But now i can't find it, i can't reach it anywhere
https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... nName=main
i tried this steps but there is no hammer symbol, my finale has no "special tools pallette", and its not under "window".
how is this possible since i've used it before?
the first time i used songwriter 2012 i had access to the special tools (hammer icon), but it disappeared and i did not mind, since i didn't need it for a while.
But now i can't find it, i can't reach it anywhere
https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... nName=main
i tried this steps but there is no hammer symbol, my finale has no "special tools pallette", and its not under "window".
how is this possible since i've used it before?
- zuill
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I looked in the Manual available on the MakeMusic website and don't find Special Tools:
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/ ... 1499101096
Zuill
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/ ... 1499101096
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- zuill
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The link you provided is for Finale. The link I provided is for SongWriter. Which program are you using?
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- motet
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Right, but Zuill's point was that you're looking at the (full) Finale user manual.
Start here for Songwriter 2012 on Windows
https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Son ... Writer.htm
Start here for Songwriter 2012 on Windows
https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Son ... Writer.htm
- zuill
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Motet,
That seems to be the same link I posted earlier.
What's puzzling me is: how does one get Special Tools in SongWriter when it is not there? The claim is that it was there last week, but is now gone?
I'm a bit confused by the claim.
Zuill
That seems to be the same link I posted earlier.
What's puzzling me is: how does one get Special Tools in SongWriter when it is not there? The claim is that it was there last week, but is now gone?
I'm a bit confused by the claim.
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
- motet
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If the special tools are available, they should be on the Tools menu, regardless of hammer icon. Screenshot below from Finale 2011, not Songwriter!
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- miker
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They are not available in SongWriter, nor have they ever been.
If the OP posts the document, will File Info tell us what program created it?
If the OP posts the document, will File Info tell us what program created it?
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its a shame, but ty anyway
yeah its weird but i can assure you i used the tools
by the way did you check my first attachment? is there another way of fixing this? (sharps too close to other stuff)
yeah its weird but i can assure you i used the tools
by the way did you check my first attachment? is there another way of fixing this? (sharps too close to other stuff)
- miker
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Only the full Finale has the Accidental Mover tool.
To the OP; can you post the document? Are you sure that you don’t have both Finale and SongWriter on your computer?
To the OP; can you post the document? Are you sure that you don’t have both Finale and SongWriter on your computer?
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- zuill
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Since you've used the tool, but it's not in SongWriter, I'm guessing you might have been trying out a demo of Finale and used the tool. If you used the tool in SongWriter, maybe you have a special version of SongWriter that nobody else has. I doubt that, but one never knows.Divinity wrote:its a shame, but ty anyway
yeah its weird but i can assure you i used the tools
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
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i will upgrade soon when i get the money
can someone assist on a question i have (im a newbie even in music)
watch the image i posted:
is there a simpler way to do this? its 7+7 (or 14) but you can see how ugly it looks (i hid the rests)
https://gyazo.com/d69d26ce527d117c53a84d6ae621da2a <--------link
can someone assist on a question i have (im a newbie even in music)
watch the image i posted:
is there a simpler way to do this? its 7+7 (or 14) but you can see how ugly it looks (i hid the rests)
https://gyazo.com/d69d26ce527d117c53a84d6ae621da2a <--------link
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- Peter Thomsen
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Indeed there is a simpler way to do this.
It is called Cross-staff notes.
You can do it if you upgrade to the “full Finale”.
In the “full Finale” there is even a Cross Staff plug-in (as part of the plug-in package TG Tools).
With the plug-in you can create cross-staff notes very quickly and easily, via keyboard shortcuts.
(I suppose that the problem here is not the creation of 7-tuplets or 14-tuplets, but rather the cross-staff notation)
It is called Cross-staff notes.
You can do it if you upgrade to the “full Finale”.
In the “full Finale” there is even a Cross Staff plug-in (as part of the plug-in package TG Tools).
With the plug-in you can create cross-staff notes very quickly and easily, via keyboard shortcuts.
(I suppose that the problem here is not the creation of 7-tuplets or 14-tuplets, but rather the cross-staff notation)
Mac OS X 12.6.9 (Monterey), Finale user since 1996
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yeah indeed the graphic notation display is the problem, the songwriter 2012 isnt making my life easier
(i expect with finale i can open this songwriter sheets i already worked on, and fix the last things (?) )
(i expect with finale i can open this songwriter sheets i already worked on, and fix the last things (?) )