Undertie 2 syllables

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Post by jose oscar » Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:57 pm

I'd like to undertie 2 syllables en m. 2 : "na" & "y"

I'm doing:

Text menu/Insert symbol/275

but the result is not an undertie, but an under hyphen



I appreciate your answers


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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:42 pm

I am not sure I understand.

You can tie two notes, but in this case there is only one note.

To attach the two syllables ‘na’ and ‘y’ to the same note, separate them by a non-breaking space character - instead of separating them by the normal, breaking, space character.

Windows text fonts have a “non-breaking space” in character slot #160.

Mac text fonts have a “non-breaking space” in character slot #202.
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Post by jose oscar » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:50 pm

Thank you, Peter.
I edited my post just now to explain better

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Post by motet » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:14 pm

The undertie, looking like a parenthesis on its back, is called a liaison character. I think Finale can do it. Look for it in the manual under that name.

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Post by miker » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:44 pm

Elision, not liaison!

It’s a new character in F27. I don’t think it was in jo’s F25.

It can be entered as a font character. Type an upper case I (that's an I like in Input) where you want it, between the letters in the lyric. Then, select the I, and go to the text menu. (Yes, the Text menu will show, even though you are in the Lyrics tool.) Click on Character Settings... In the next window, choose Engraver Font Set. The I should change to an elision/undertie.
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Post by jose oscar » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:50 am

Thank you very much, miker,
I see the undertie on your file, but I don't get the route to import that symbol on my file.
Could you explain further, please?

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Post by miker » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:31 pm

Under that C, enter the lyric as naIc (that's an upper case I, as in the word Insert.
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Select just that I. You can do it in either the score, or the Lyrics window.
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Don't change tools. In the text menu at the top, choose Font Settings...

In the next font Window, choose Engraver Font Set, and click OK.
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Post by jose oscar » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:11 pm

Thank you very much indeed, miker,
I've got it.

The the route is:

1) Write "I" in the space between the 2 letters to undertie

2) Select "I" (in either the score, or the Lyrics window)

3) Text menu/Font/Engraver Font Set/Click
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Post by miker » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:19 pm

That’s it!
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