Dash

[jose oscar]

Between measures 2 & 3 I'd like to put a dash: pon-zués

With the rest of the score I have no problems writing the dash


I appreciate your time and help

Finale 25.4/ Windows 10

Dash finaleforum.musx

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[motet]

The goofy characters you've got between Quintana and y are confusing it. Use an elision character or hard space and you're good to go.

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[jose oscar]

Thank you very much, motet.

By the way, how could I delete that goofy character?

[miker]

Select the syllable in the score or lyrics window, and retype it. That will keep the rest of the lyrics from shifting.

[jose oscar]

Thank you, miker,
sometimes it works, sometimes not.
I don't know the reason

[motet]

There's certainly a bug here--no matter what odd characters you put in your lyric, it shouldn't effect the hyphenation of the following word! Might be worth reporting, but I'm guessing it's the least of their worries and is unlikely to pass triage and be fixed.

But Mike's instructions sometimes working and sometimes not I'm more skeptical of. Here's what I did to fix this particular problem: I selected the stray characters, then used Insert Hard Space from the Text pull-down menu to replace them.

[jose oscar]

A curious thing is happening:

1) I cannot put a Dash between “san do” and between "do le" (measures 3-4). Attachment 1

2) But when I was cutting pick-up and measure 1 to incorporate the file in a more reduced way to the forum I observed that both “san-do” and"do-le" have a dash Attachment 2

1 Dash piece WITH first measures finaleforum.musx

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2 Dash piece without first measures finaleforum.musx

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[motet]

Look familiar? Even though you may not be using them in the score, they're in the lyrics window and apparently are causing trouble.

[jose oscar]

Yes, motet, it seems that these troubles come from the lyric window then.
What did I do wrong when typing into the score?

[miker]

Were you typing anything other than a space or a dash between the syllables?

Are you using something other than a US keyboard?

[motet]

I think he was trying to insert the elision character.

By the way, between the two versions I have, 2014.4 and 27, they've added a keystroke for the elision symbol, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+minus. Jose Oscar's bio says he's got Finale 25; I don't know if the new feature made it in by then, but if not, it might be worth upgrading if you have a lot of them to do. Should be much easier than inserting capital I's and changing their font (the Finale Lyrics font has the elision character).

[jose oscar]

Were you typing anything other than a space or a dash between the syllables?
NO

Are you using something other than a US keyboard?

SPANISH ( it contains the ñ, for instance) But I don't think that has any influence at all

[miker]

I think he was trying to insert the elision character.

By the way, between the two versions I have, 2014.4 and 27, they've added a keystroke for the elision symbol, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+minus. Jose Oscar's bio says he's got Finale 25; I don't know if the new feature made it in by then, but if not, it might be worth upgrading if you have a lot of them to do. Should be much easier than inserting capital I's and changing their font (the Finale Lyrics font has the elision character).

No. The elision (and the Finale Lyrics font) are both new to F27.

[jose oscar]

I think he was trying to insert the elision character.

By the way, between the two versions I have, 2014.4 and 27, they've added a keystroke for the elision symbol, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+minus. Jose Oscar's bio says he's got Finale 25; I don't know if the new feature made it in by then, but if not, it might be worth upgrading if you have a lot of them to do. Should be much easier than inserting capital I's and changing their font (the Finale Lyrics font has the elision character).

Thank you, motet.
The liaison problem is solved. (by the way, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+minus doesn't work on my laptop)
My problem now is with dash. Why it is sometimes not visible, but hidden.

[motet]

Like I said, the missing dash is due to those stray characters. Go to the Lyrics window and delete them.

[jose oscar]

Like I said, the missing dash is due to those stray characters. Go to the Lyrics window and delete them.

Thank you very much, motet.

[motet]

The elision (and the Finale Lyrics font) are both new to F27.

I have Finale Lyrics with 2014.5 (indeed, it's the default). The elision character can be inserted in the Lyrics Window with Insert Symbol, but your method of using an I in the Engravers Font Set is easier, and can be done from Type Into Score as well. It can be copy and pasted.

[miker]

I sit corrected. I thought the Finale Lyrics was newer than that.