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Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby mark carlson » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:13 am

I am editing a score originally copied in 1998, but now on Finale 2014a.
I painstakingly adjusted many, many notes in adjacent layers which, somehow, had moved: things that are a second apart had shifted so that they were far apart, instead of being right next to each other. I can't tell you how long I worked to get this back to the way it was supposed to be. And then I had it all fixed, printed out the score, and found that they had all shifted again.
Why won't they stay put? And how can I count on them eventually staying in the right place? I can't afford the time to have to adjust these every single time I need to edit or print out the score.


I just posted the above on the Make Music Community Help Center and was asked to include a score in which this is happening. I have been correcting these as I go, but here is one un-corrected example, in m. 73, piano right hand. The F was lined up exactly where it should have been, and then the next time I opened the score, it had moved to the right.

Thanks,
Mark Carlson
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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby zuill » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:50 am

In Document Options, Music Spacing, uncheck 2nds as a spacing choice. Also, I always choose to Incorporate manual spacing.

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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby motet » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:55 am

I tried setting it to Incorporate in the O.P.'s file, moved the F, respaced, and the F popped right back. Why wasn't it "incorporated"?
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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby zuill » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:55 am

Because 2nds is still chosen. Uncheck that. Some things over-ride Incorporate.

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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby motet » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:57 am

Should be the other way around--manual should trump everything! But thanks for explaining.
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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby zuill » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:58 am

It does in most cases, but there are a few things that tend to trump Incorporate.

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Postby motet » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:59 am

A pity if you normally want the "2nds" feature elsewhere.
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Re: Regarding notes in layer 2 moving

Postby zuill » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:06 am

For that, be in Speedy Entry and ctrl-click the measure when in the proper Layer. Then, uncheck Spacing for that note. That way you can keep the 2nds selected as an option. I believe the problem here is that the dot on the layer 1 note is taken into consideration for spacing. JW Change can also do it, except it is not available if one has v25.

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