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Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Misemao » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:24 am

Hi, I'm fairly new to finale and use it mostly to write out Jazz Lead Sheets and Horn Section Charts.

Is there a way for finale to redo the accidentals in a score not by the "classically correct" rules, but in a way that makes it easily readable? If I write a horn chart and then extract/transpose the parts, the automatically created accidentials are either only flats or only sharps depending on the key. This results in lots of double-flats/sharps and completely unreadable charts. Going through them by hand is extremely annoying and time-consuming.
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Postby motet » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:48 pm

How are you transposing? We may need to see an example.
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Misemao » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:36 am

Sorry for not replying sooner. I transpose using either the "Transpose" feature or by changing the key signature. I attached 3 Files of a Lead Sheet for an exercise. It was originally in F Major I transposed it to C# Major. I got the most readable result by first transposing it down chromatically (there's an extra file for that in the attachments to show that at this point, it's unreadable) and then changing the key signature while holding the pitches enharmonically. This method is needlessly complicated though. Also, with this method chordsymbols don't get transposed.
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby michelp » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:36 am

For the transposition of chords (if you used "Transpose"), select the region and use Utilities -> Change -> Chords -> Transpose.
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Misemao » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:58 pm

Thanks. But then I have to do three things and always keep track of the intervals/key signatures. So I'm still hoping that there's another way
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Misemao » Tue May 08, 2018 10:37 pm

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Another example. This time the transposition is done automatically, since it's a Bb Part. How is this a readable score? One thing that would help is changing the key signature from C# minor to Db minor (would make reading the accidentals easier), but guess what, Finale does not have "D flat minor" in the key signature tool. :evil:
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby zuill » Wed May 09, 2018 12:22 am

I guess I'm not seeing a problem in the posted example. Anyway, you can have the score in C# minor, but the Bb part in Eb minor if you want. Is that what you're getting at?

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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Peter Thomsen » Wed May 09, 2018 5:31 am

Misemao wrote:… Finale does not have "D flat minor" in the key signature tool …

Actually yes, Finale does have “D flat minor” in the Key Signature Tool.
To get there, choose Nonstandard… in the pop up menu (neither Major Key nor Minor Key, nor Keyless).
Then click “Next” twice, to get to Linear Key Format 2.
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Misemao » Wed May 09, 2018 5:36 am

zuill wrote:I guess I'm not seeing a problem in the posted example. Anyway, you can have the score in C# minor, but the Bb part in Eb minor if you want. Is that what you're getting at?

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I can? I did not know that. How do I do that?
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby Peter Thomsen » Wed May 09, 2018 10:02 am

Misemao wrote:
zuill wrote:I guess I'm not seeing a problem in the posted example. Anyway, you can have the score in C# minor, but the Bb part in Eb minor if you want. Is that what you're getting at?

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I can? I did not know that. How do I do that?

Use a custom staff style that sets the staff transposition to A# transposition instead of Bb transposition.

See the attached Finale document.
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Re: Recalculating Accidentals

Postby zuill » Wed May 09, 2018 3:13 pm

That's not the way I did it, but that works.

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