Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

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Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by oebb » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:22 pm

Hi!
Everytime I add an articulation or create a tie (or a smartshape ending) the positioning of these elements end up far off the note/staff in its vertical position. I have tried to see if there's any weird settings in the "Articulation Designer" window and/or Document Options -> Ties but the values here seem ok and changes to the values doesn't seem to have any impact. I suspect this is related to some general setting that I'm missing.... (probably something really simple). Been struggling with this for quite a while so any help would be much apreciated. I'm on Finale 25.
Cheers
/Mikael

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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by miker » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:20 pm

Have you tried:
1. Restarting the computer?
2. Refreshing the preferences?
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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by motet » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:22 am

Try removing the tie and see if the problem goes away. That will provide a clue

In which version did they introduce stacked articulations?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:45 am

oebb wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:22 pm
… Everytime I add an articulation or create a tie (or a smartshape ending) the positioning of these elements end up far off the note/staff in its vertical position …
1) Welcome to the forum!

2) My first guess would be that the culprit is a missing .FAN file for the music font.
What music font are you using in this particular Finale document?
Is the .FAN file for that music font present in the Font Annotation Folder?
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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by miker » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:44 pm

motet wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:22 am
Try removing the tie and see if the problem goes away. That will provide a clue

In which version did they introduce stacked articulations?
F26, I think. I’m still unhappy that they stack by default.
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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by oebb » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:45 am
oebb wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:22 pm
… Everytime I add an articulation or create a tie (or a smartshape ending) the positioning of these elements end up far off the note/staff in its vertical position …
1) Welcome to the forum!

2) My first guess would be that the culprit is a missing .FAN file for the music font.
What music font are you using in this particular Finale document?
Is the .FAN file for that music font present in the Font Annotation Folder?
1. Many thanks!
2. Yea - this sounds very likely. I upgraded my laptop and moved the drive with Finale on it to the new laptop and then just added a new shortcut from the Finale.exe. It's working fine except for this issue... There is no Font Annotation folder in the Finale install folder (but there is one in the 2012Converter->Resources folder). I also get a warning when I open a finale file on a missing font annotation file. So - is reinstall my only option here?

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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by oebb » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:25 pm

motet wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:22 am
Try removing the tie and see if the problem goes away. That will provide a clue

In which version did they introduce stacked articulations?
Sory - this makes no change

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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by motet » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:33 pm

oebb wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:24 pm
I upgraded my laptop and moved the drive with Finale on it to the new laptop and then just added a new shortcut from the Finale.exe. It's working fine except for this issue... There is no Font Annotation folder in the Finale install folder (but there is one in the 2012Converter->Resources folder). I also get a warning when I open a finale file on a missing font annotation file. So - is reinstall my only option here?
Personally I would reinstall. Any reason you're reluctant to?

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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by motet » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:48 pm

In my version, the font annotations are in

C:\Users\Motet\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale 2014.5\Font Annotation

The installer sets up the AppData stuff. There's other per-user stuff in there as well, so there may be other things wrong that you just haven't noticed yet.

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Re: Articulation and tie - weird vertical positioning

Post by oebb » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm

Reinstalled. Had to completely remove the old install but now it works lika a charm. Many thanks for the support!

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/Mikael

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