How can i do this in Finale 2009 (Bb/Ab7)

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Post by Mark II » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:42 am

How can i do this in Finale 2009 (Bb/Ab7)?
Everytime i get Bb/Ab but no Bb/Ab7.
It's possible to do this?
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Post by michelp » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:45 pm

Ab7/Bb would be possible, not the opposite, at least not without a workaround.
You could create the 2 chord components, move them into position, and create a line (expression) to place in between.
Or create Bb/Ab and add a 7 as an expression to the Ab (less recommended, as the 7 might move if you change the layout).
(Ab7 9 #11 13 or Ab 9 #11 13 are of course very commonly used)
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:06 pm

If your chord symbol layout uses horizontal "fraction line" (rather than slash "fraction line"), like this:
Bb
Ab7
then you can position the chord symbols via "Type Into Score":
Type Ab7, hit the UpArrow key, and type Bb.

You will have to add the horizontal "fraction line" as an expression.
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Post by Mark II » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:13 pm

michelp wrote:Ab7/Bb would be possible, not the opposite, at least not without a workaround.
You could create the 2 chord components, move them into position, and create a line (expression) to place in between.
Or create Bb/Ab and add a 7 as an expression to the Ab (less recommended, as the 7 might move if you change the layout).
(Ab7 9 #11 13 or Ab 9 #11 13 are of course very commonly used)
That's what i did. But i think this option (Bb/Ab7) would be a great advance in the next Finale versions cause i know many people using that. Anyway, your suggestion was very appreciated! Thanx! ;o)

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Post by Mark II » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:17 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:If your chord symbol layout uses horizontal "fraction line" (rather than slash "fraction line"), like this:
Bb
Ab7
then you can position the chord symbols via "Type Into Score":
Type Ab7, hit the UpArrow key, and type Bb.

You will have to add the horizontal "fraction line" as an expression.
Thank you Peter! I will try your suggestion. Thanks for that, but like i quote the another suggestion, i think that option (Bb/Ab7), would be a great adavance in the next Finale versions. Best regards! ;o)

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Post by michelp » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:47 pm

"Polychords" have been a request for many years, but the developers don't seem to consider it a priority.
Maybe the playback of these chords is a bit complicated to handle, as it could bring acoustic confusion if the voicings are not adequate...
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Post by Mark II » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:14 pm

michelp wrote:"Polychords" have been a request for many years, but the developers don't seem to consider it a priority.
Maybe the playback of these chords is a bit complicated to handle, as it could bring acoustic confusion if the voicings are not adequate...
Hi Michel, yes, i understood that point. Anyway, i never use Finale to hear music. For me to do this i have Cubase but i understand it's common to have "all in one", even Cubase try to do this (i'm talking about using Cubase to write scores and, i don't like to use Cubase to do scores). Ok, that's the Finale and Cubase point. I will do that things like you and Peter recommend! Thanx! I aprecciated your help! Best regards! ;o)

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Post by at8ax » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:10 pm

Another route to the same destination: Enter Bb/Ab (slash or horizontal), and on the same note, enter Ab7, which you can nudge to overlap the Ab already there. (Or you could just call the chord Ab9+11 and be done with it!)

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Post by Mark II » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:46 am

at8ax wrote:Another route to the same destination: Enter Bb/Ab (slash or horizontal), and on the same note, enter Ab7, which you can nudge to overlap the Ab already there. (Or you could just call the chord Ab9+11 and be done with it!)
Thank you for the suggestion! I aprecciated! ;o) Best regards!

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