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matternj
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Post by matternj » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:43 pm

I am using Finale 2007 on a PowerBook G4 (OS X 10.4.11). I’m trying to add Japanese lyrics. When I go to Document Options —> fonts to set the font for lyrics, several Japanese fonts appear. When I choose one, I can type the Japanese text normally and it appears on the score, but when I finish a section and hit enter, it turns into wacky symbols. Any way to fix this?

Thanks!


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Peter Thomsen
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:00 pm

Finale 2007 does not support Unicode.

To make Japanese text work in Finale 2007 you must use special double-byte fonts (not Unicode fonts).

See the attached Finale document.
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Post by matternj » Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:08 am

Thanks! ...How am I supposed to use the file?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:30 am

You are not supposed to use the document.

The document is just a proof that you can get Japanese text in Finale 2007.

You can examine the document, and see what fonts are used.
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Post by matternj » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:47 am

I'm confused as to why FInale 2007 includes fonts that it doesn't support...the user manual actually makes reference to the Japanese font options.

If you're willing to answer such a basic question, how does one go about installing outside (double-byte?) fonts in Finale?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:44 am

matternj wrote:I'm confused as to why FInale 2007 includes fonts that it doesn't support...the user manual actually makes reference to the Japanese font options …
I could be wrong here, but I do not think that Finale 2007 includes Japanese fonts.
As Far As I Know, the only fonts that are installed with Finale 2007, are the music font families (= Maestro, Engraver, Jazz &c.).

Generally, fonts are installed in the operating system, in a Fonts folder.
From the Fonts folder the fonts are available to all programs - including Finale.
(This also means that the Finale music fonts are available to other programs than Finale)

matternj wrote:… how does one go about installing outside (double-byte?) fonts in Finale?
You do not install fonts in Finale (and I do not think that you can install fonts in Finale).

The double-byte fonts for Japanese text are included in a standard Mac OS installation - to make Mac OS usable in Japanese.

In Other Words:
You do already have the Japanese double-byte fonts installed in your system.
The proof is that you could see Japanese text in the Finale document, I attached (there are no fonts saved inside a Finale document).
You did open my Finale document “JapaneseCharacters.mus”, didn’t you?

If you examine my document, you can see, what font is used for the Japanese text.
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Post by matternj » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:28 pm

I appreciate your help.

The font used in that document still doesn't show up in mine...

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:55 pm

Did you try to enter Japanese text into the document I attached?
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