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Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:11 am
by spenceralger
Hello all, I am writing a song which requires the timpani part to also use a triangle, and the marimba parts to use cymbals, and I don't know how to add in the triangle or cymbal parts to the staffs. If anyone knows how to help me, please respond. Thank you

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:09 pm
by motet
Simplest might be to add the triangle or cymbals on ledger lines above the staff in a different layer, stems pointing up, providing the marimba doesn't play up there (likely the timpani does not).

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:21 pm
by motet
That is, of course if timpani and triangle are playing at the same time. If they play at different times, use Change Instrument.

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:48 pm
by spenceralger
motet wrote:Simplest might be to add the triangle or cymbals on ledger lines above the staff in a different layer, stems pointing up, providing the marimba doesn't play up there (likely the timpani does not).
I'm not able to change the instrument/notation of only one individual layer. Do you know how to?

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:00 pm
by miker
Put the other instrument in another layer.

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:06 pm
by motet
If you use Change Instrument you should only need one layer.

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:27 am
by spenceralger
miker wrote:Put the other instrument in another layer.
Whenever I try to do that it doesn't really work. I put the 2nd layer under Timpani to the sound "General MIDI Perc Map" because that includes the triangle sound that I want. Whenever I go to change the notation style of the second layer, it also changes the notation of the other layers, making the Timpani notes go way below the staff (I would include pictures, but the files are too big).

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:30 am
by motet
Is timpani and triangle playing at the same time?

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:34 am
by spenceralger
motet wrote:Is timpani and triangle playing at the same time?
They play in the same measure

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:31 am
by motet
if you need playback, it might be best to add a new one-line staff for the triangle and only show it where needed.

Re: Multiple Instruments on same staff

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:11 am
by zuill
With Finale, it takes trickery.

Zuill