Change the default assignment for expressions

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Deacon Don
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Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:27 pm

It's driving me nutz. I've tried and tried to change the default placement of dynamics, and anything
else, and they keep reverting to the default in the same document. Searches on this forum
have nothing, using the Document/Document Options doesn't work, using the expression editor
doesn't work.

What do I need to do to change the default so Finale will never, ever use it?

This is what I want
Expression what I want.PNG

This is what I get
Expression what I get..PNG
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Post by motet » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:32 pm

How are you applying the dynamic?

Make sure your dynamics category positioning looks like this, which should give you what you want.

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Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:33 pm

motet wrote:How are you applying the dynamic?

Make sure your dynamics category positioning looks like this, which should give you what you want.
I select a number and click with the mouse.

You window is different.

This mine.
Expression selection.PNG
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Post by motet » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:24 pm

Wrong window. Document / Category designer / Dynamics.

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Post by motet » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:26 pm

Looks like you don't have metatools assigned for some reason. They will make your life easier. Read up on them in the manual. But check the category setting for your placement woes.

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Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:08 am

motet wrote: Looks like you don't have metatools assigned for some reason. They will make your life easier.
Read up on them in the manual. But check the category setting for your placement woes.
Thanks for your help. I'll try it.
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Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:19 pm

motet wrote:Wrong window. Document / Category designer / Dynamics.
Works great. Do I need to do this with every document or will it become the default?

I use metatools. Sometimes they give different expressions. For a while when I
used 4 + Click it entered a harmon mute instead of forte. When I changed it the
expression would revert to the harmon.
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Post by motet » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:07 pm

Did you create a new document without libraries? Your picture above shows the default metatools for dynamics unassigned. My suggestion next time you start a new piece would be to use the set-up wizard.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:35 pm

Deacon Don wrote:… Works great. Do I need to do this with every document or will it become the default? …
Unfortunately expressions are document specific, not program specific.

But you can set up your template(s) with all the expressions you need.
In that way all new documents will automatically have the expressions.
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Post by zuill » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:22 am

In the posted screen shot, there are several duplicates of categories. That may have been done by loading in a Library several times. Libraries load in without metatools. I'm curious as to why there are all the category duplicates. Is there a purpose behind that, or was that inadvertent? If accidental, maybe this file needs some cleaning up to streamline things.

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