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Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:27 pm
by Deacon Don
It's driving me nutz. I've tried and tried to change the default placement of dynamics, and anything
else, and they keep reverting to the default in the same document. Searches on this forum
have nothing, using the Document/Document Options doesn't work, using the expression editor
doesn't work.

What do I need to do to change the default so Finale will never, ever use it?

This is what I want
Expression what I want.PNG

This is what I get
Expression what I get..PNG

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:32 pm
by motet
How are you applying the dynamic?

Make sure your dynamics category positioning looks like this, which should give you what you want.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:33 pm
by Deacon Don
motet wrote:How are you applying the dynamic?

Make sure your dynamics category positioning looks like this, which should give you what you want.
I select a number and click with the mouse.

You window is different.

This mine.
Expression selection.PNG

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:24 pm
by motet
Wrong window. Document / Category designer / Dynamics.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:26 pm
by motet
Looks like you don't have metatools assigned for some reason. They will make your life easier. Read up on them in the manual. But check the category setting for your placement woes.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:08 am
by Deacon Don
motet wrote: Looks like you don't have metatools assigned for some reason. They will make your life easier.
Read up on them in the manual. But check the category setting for your placement woes.
Thanks for your help. I'll try it.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:19 pm
by Deacon Don
motet wrote:Wrong window. Document / Category designer / Dynamics.
Works great. Do I need to do this with every document or will it become the default?

I use metatools. Sometimes they give different expressions. For a while when I
used 4 + Click it entered a harmon mute instead of forte. When I changed it the
expression would revert to the harmon.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:07 pm
by motet
Did you create a new document without libraries? Your picture above shows the default metatools for dynamics unassigned. My suggestion next time you start a new piece would be to use the set-up wizard.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:35 pm
by Peter Thomsen
Deacon Don wrote:… Works great. Do I need to do this with every document or will it become the default? …
Unfortunately expressions are document specific, not program specific.

But you can set up your template(s) with all the expressions you need.
In that way all new documents will automatically have the expressions.

Re: Change the default assignment for expressions

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:22 am
by zuill
In the posted screen shot, there are several duplicates of categories. That may have been done by loading in a Library several times. Libraries load in without metatools. I'm curious as to why there are all the category duplicates. Is there a purpose behind that, or was that inadvertent? If accidental, maybe this file needs some cleaning up to streamline things.

Zuill