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finale and cubase

Post by scorn » Sat May 25, 2019 11:18 am

hi
i've been using cubase for a while and finale too , and i always have the same problem when it comes to write down the score
of course cubase is worthless at scoring , so i write the whole score on finale

can you tell me the best and fastest solution to write the score from cubase?
i heard that there is dorico , does anyone ever tried this soft , and is it worthit compared to finale?

i tried to export a file from cubase and import it through finale , never worked so far..

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by michelp » Sat May 25, 2019 11:37 am

Have you tried to export a MusicXML file from Cubase, a format that Finale can import ?
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by MikeHalloran » Mon May 27, 2019 4:02 pm

Dorico does not integrate into Cubase according to the many complaints on the Dorico forum. It’s on the list of things to be done someday...

Dorico’s MusicXML implementation leaves a lot to be desired — improvement is also on the list, hopefully with a higher priority.

Cubase Pro is the only version that supports MusicXML. Here is the feature list from Steinberg Support:
https://steinberg.help/cubase_pro_artis ... ing_c.html
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by scorn » Mon May 27, 2019 4:37 pm

ok
i think that the dream of exporting a file from cubase or nuendo and opening it in finale , will never happen
it should be sooooo good , not to have to write down all the tracks , just click and go
nothing is easy in this cruel world Image

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by zuill » Mon May 27, 2019 5:05 pm

How about MIDI files? Then you'll at least have the notes. That's a time saver of sorts.

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by michelp » Mon May 27, 2019 5:42 pm

Or, as Mike mentioned, update to Cubase PRO, which handles MusicXML.
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by apkyburz » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:02 pm

A late post, but you might consider Tim Davies' approach.

He's an AA motion-picture orchestrator/conductor and his professional life is centered around putting film-composer's DAW-files into Finale.

Here is his video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeCuJfXhS9s&t=2757s

He works from DP to finale, but I adapted his workflow to Cubase.

Feel free to shoot me a pm if you have any questions about it, I might be able to help you.

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by BuonTempi » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:29 am

scorn wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:18 am
can you tell me the best and fastest solution to write the score from cubase?
i heard that there is dorico , does anyone ever tried this soft , and is it worthit compared to finale?
Here's Alan Silvestri's workflow from Cubase to Dorico.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrDqGEQux7g

Currently, you can drag MIDI directly from Cubase into Dorico. Markers and Tempo tracks in MIDI files are also imported.
Dorico imports XML very well, but exports it poorly.

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by dankreider » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:58 pm

Dorico 3.1, which just came out, greatly improves XML import. I’d call it quite functional now, though of course there’s always room for improvement.
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by MikeHalloran » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:04 am

Dorico imports XML very well, but exports it poorly.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree only with the exports…poorly part.
dankreider wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:58 pm
Dorico 3.1, which just came out, greatly improves XML import. I’d call it quite functional now, though of course there’s always room for improvement.
Dan is right. Dorico 3.1 is much improved in this regard but still not as good as Notion 6 or Finale—yet?

There's a composer I work with whose Sibelius scores I realize by importing his MusicXML into Notion 6, assigning or replacing VIs and record. I don't use Notion for anything else but it is a fantastic tool for this use and worth every penny of the $79 crossgrade. Finale works but Notion saves me many hours per project. My client could also pay the $79, of course, but he doesn't have the thou$and$ invested in VI libraries that I have so he prefers to pay me to do this.
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by scorn » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:04 am

thanks y'all , i've never heard of notion , i'm gonne check this out , (again hours of learning the software , but if it worthit , then i'll do that)

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by apkyburz » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:23 pm

MikeHalloran wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:04 am
Dorico imports XML very well, but exports it poorly.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree only with the exports…poorly part.
dankreider wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:58 pm
Dorico 3.1, which just came out, greatly improves XML import. I’d call it quite functional now, though of course there’s always room for improvement.
Dan is right. Dorico 3.1 is much improved in this regard but still not as good as Notion 6 or Finale—yet?

There's a composer I work with whose Sibelius scores I realize by importing his MusicXML into Notion 6, assigning or replacing VIs and record. I don't use Notion for anything else but it is a fantastic tool for this use and worth every penny of the $79 crossgrade. Finale works but Notion saves me many hours per project. My client could also pay the $79, of course, but he doesn't have the thou$and$ invested in VI libraries that I have so he prefers to pay me to do this.
Hi Mike,

Your workflow sounds very appealing. Do you have videos or a blog where you elaborate?

Best,

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Re: finale and cubase

Post by MikeHalloran » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:11 am

apkyburz wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:23 pm
MikeHalloran wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:04 am
Dorico imports XML very well, but exports it poorly.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree only with the exports…poorly part.
dankreider wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:58 pm
Dorico 3.1, which just came out, greatly improves XML import. I’d call it quite functional now, though of course there’s always room for improvement.
Dan is right. Dorico 3.1 is much improved in this regard but still not as good as Notion 6 or Finale—yet?

There's a composer I work with whose Sibelius scores I realize by importing his MusicXML into Notion 6, assigning or replacing VIs and record. I don't use Notion for anything else but it is a fantastic tool for this use and worth every penny of the $79 crossgrade. Finale works but Notion saves me many hours per project. My client could also pay the $79, of course, but he doesn't have the thou$and$ invested in VI libraries that I have so he prefers to pay me to do this.
Hi Mike,

Your workflow sounds very appealing. Do you have videos or a blog where you elaborate?

Best,
No I don’t but it wouldn’t be that hard to do.

Unfortunately, spare time is a precious commodity. I’m spending a huge number of hours helping churches do services online. If I ever work with my choirs and bands in person again, it would be fun to knock something out. I wouldn’t use one of my clients’ scores, of course, but I could outline what a one-page test score should include to demonstrate the principles involved.

Thing is that while doing this online work, I’ve picked up a number of tips and tricks that make creating such videos easier so I’d like to get into that.
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Re: finale and cubase

Post by apkyburz » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:52 pm

MikeHalloran wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:11 am

No I don’t but it wouldn’t be that hard to do.

Unfortunately, spare time is a precious commodity. I’m spending a huge number of hours helping churches do services online. If I ever work with my choirs and bands in person again, it would be fun to knock something out. I wouldn’t use one of my clients’ scores, of course, but I could outline what a one-page test score should include to demonstrate the principles involved.

Thing is that while doing this online work, I’ve picked up a number of tips and tricks that make creating such videos easier so I’d like to get into that.
Sounds great, Mike! If you ever get to it, give me a shout! Looking forward.

Best,
apkyburz

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