whole note in 7/8 bar
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Hi:
How do I display a whole not in a 7/8 bar? It is awkward to write a double-dotted half note. Finale displays a whole rest after all...
-Matt
How do I display a whole not in a 7/8 bar? It is awkward to write a double-dotted half note. Finale displays a whole rest after all...
-Matt
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Finale allows you to overfill a bar if needed. However, you're using SongWriter, so I can't say for that.
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Yep, using top level version of Finale, but it won't allow a whole note (8/8) in a 7/8 bar.
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Well, your profile shows SongWriter. You might want to update that, as we try to give advice based on the Finale software being used.
Whether you are using Speedy or Simple, both means of input have a setting to check for extra notes (too many for the bar). Unchecking that allows you to put more value into the measure than would normally be allowed.
Zuill
Whether you are using Speedy or Simple, both means of input have a setting to check for extra notes (too many for the bar). Unchecking that allows you to put more value into the measure than would normally be allowed.
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Thanks! It's standard procedure in copywork for odd-timed bars to have whole notes to fill the bar, even if it's not a 4/4 bar. This just makes it easier for the writer and for the poor schlub trying to read through the score.
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It would confuse me. Sorry if that seems contradictory. What kind of copywork uses that paradigm?
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I would be looking at that and asking myself where that extra 1/8th note beat goes. I know the intention, but it doesn't add up correctly. It's one thing to use a whole rest. I guess it's permissible to use whole notes in 3/4 as well? Get rid of those tiresome pesky dots! It's too much work! [Sarcasm]
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A better keyboard shortcut might be a dotted half note without a following eighth rest, especially since many keyboard players might shorten the note a little anyway. And it will fit in the measure.
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I'd personally stay away from writing a whole note in 7/8 measures.
As someone who sight-reads a lot, I rarely look at the time signature. I usually defer to the note values because the time signature is redundant at that point. Especially if the time signature changes often, the extra information becomes a distraction.
I guarantee you I would play it as a 4/4 bar. May just be me, but I've never seen a whole note in a 7/8 measure.
As someone who sight-reads a lot, I rarely look at the time signature. I usually defer to the note values because the time signature is redundant at that point. Especially if the time signature changes often, the extra information becomes a distraction.
I guarantee you I would play it as a 4/4 bar. May just be me, but I've never seen a whole note in a 7/8 measure.
Nick