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Post by Rachmaninov » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:41 am

Hello,
I would like to put a double dot next to a note. I followed the user's manual, but it doesn't work. They say to press the dot on the numpad, but I have a macbook only, and the usual dot (maj + ;) doesn't do the job. how can I do ?


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Post by motet » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:44 am

Your Macbook doesn't have a period? Hard to believe.

In Simple entry, pull down the menu and look at Simple Edit Commands/Change Duration and it will show you the keyboard equivalent for an augmentation dot.

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Post by miker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:01 am

It’s the period key. Tap it twice to double dot a note.
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Post by Rachmaninov » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:12 am

Of course my macbook has a period, but when the note is selected, if I press the period key, no dot appears.

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Post by Rachmaninov » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:34 am

Found ! The keyboard short cut in the user's manual are wrong for laptop (even the laptop set section). The right answer is maj + :
It makes your cursor as a dot, with which you will click on a note to augment its duration. What an awful process to discover for such a simple thing !

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Post by miker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:36 am

Are you using a US keyboard?
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Post by motet » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:11 am

Did you try what I suggested above, looking at the menu? There's got to be a keyboard command to add a dot without using the mouse.

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Post by David Ward » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:50 am

On my UK keyboard (only slightly different from a US one), if immediately after a note value is entered full stop (period) is pressed twice you get a double dot, three times a triple dot (as in Bruckner) or even four times for a quadruple dot. Finale will then calculated the space and layout to suit. Alternatively place the cursor in the horizontal position of the note to be double-dotted and press full stop in the same way to get the same result.

Is that how you are doing it?
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Post by miker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:23 pm

Rachmaninov,

You refer to maj+: as the shortcut. What is maj?
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Post by David Ward » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:35 pm

It may perhaps be a question of ‘which language?’, although I can't immediately think of one in which the English control, option (alt) or command is translated as maj.
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Post by michelp » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:04 pm

Maj stands for Majuscules (French) and is the equivalent of Shift.
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Post by miker » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:06 pm

Thanks, Michel. Could his issue be with a French keyboard?
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Post by michelp » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:21 pm

Yes, maybe (or is it another language ?), and the fact that it is a MacBook Pro.
I have an extended AZERTY keyboard, French MacOs, and in Speedy, the dot on the numeric keypad works fine : it produces all the dots needed.
But on the main keyboard, it produces.. a grace note (like ; or G).
P.S. : Shift + : doesn't do anything on my main keyboard.

P.S. 2 : on the Mac, Keyboard Maestro seems to be able to activate keys on a missing keypad. A substitute keyboard shortcut can trigger them. Maybe a solution ... ?
 
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Post by David Ward » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:12 pm

michelp wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:04 pm
Maj stands for Majuscules (French) and is the equivalent of Shift.
I certainly should have realized that: getting old, I fear!
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Post by motet » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:20 pm

Rachmaninov wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:34 am
It makes your cursor as a dot, with which you will click on a note to augment its duration. What an awful process to discover for such a simple thing!
I still don't understand this. Look here, where it should show you which keyboard key to press (no clicking involved) for your version.

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Post by miker » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:27 pm

Since he never answered the question about what keyboard he is using, I see no reason to speculate further.

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Post by Rachmaninov » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:05 am

Thanks everybody. I'm sorry to see that I didn't answer some questions. Yes I have a french keyboard. And the "maj" is the "shift" key indeed.
Thanks again for your help.

Mat

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