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Hi Everyone,
I am using Finale 26.3.1 (Mac) and am having a problem with human playback on one particular articulation.
Using a guitar string marking (circled number 4), when using human playback, a trill is played, even though I have "none" selected on the playback effect of the articulation designer. The other numbers of guitar string markings do not trigger a trill playback. Any ideas as to how deactivate this annoying trill on human playback?

It will be best if you post the offending doc. Even a few measures showing this behavior will be sufficient.

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:57 pm

… am having a problem with human playback on one particular articulation.
Using a guitar string marking (circled number 4), when using human playback, a trill is played, even though I have "none" selected on the playback effect of the articulation designer. The other numbers of guitar string markings do not trigger a trill playback. Any ideas as to how deactivate this annoying trill on human playback?

Human Playback looks at the font character’s slot number.

In the Maestro font the trill character is located in font slot #217.
When Human Playback finds a “font character” articulation with a font character from slot #217, HP will play a trill, no matter the actual font being used.

Another example:
In slot #77 (where a text font has uppercase M) the Maestro font has the mordent character.
When Human Playback finds a “font character” articulation with font character from slot #77, HP will play a mordent, no matter the actual font being used.
An uppercase M from a text font (any font), too, will cause HP to play a mordent.

I suppose that the guitar string marking (circled number 4) is a character in a font - right? (in what font?)
In which slot is this {circled number 4} located? - perhaps in slot #217?

I suppose that you still need Human Playback play actual trills - right?
This means that playback without HP is not a solution - right?

To prevent that the articulation with {circled number 4} activates HP you can create the articulation as a {shape} articulation, instead of a {font character} articulation.
HP does not examine text blocks in shapes (created in the Shape Designer).

Thanks for responding so quickly.
Here is the articulation in slot #109.

HP recognizes slot 109 as a short trill. That's why you're getting that response. One workaround is to create a shape expression. HP doesn't consider those for playback.

Zuill

Thanks. Could I also duplicate it and place it in another slot that has no playback pre-programmed into it?

If you can find another font that has numbers in slots not needed for HP, that could work. Unless you know how to edit a font, you can't move the slot of that number.

Upon further looking, the Wingdings 2 font also has the number 4 in a circle in slot 360. Try that.

Zuill

In my articulations, that circled 4 is in slot 335, and it also triggers a trill when using HP.

In Wingdings 2, slot 360 doesn't trigger a trill.

Zuill

Can I duplicate and paste the circled 4 into slot 360?

It doesn't work that way. Those slots are fixed in the font. If you have the knowledge and permission to edit a font, then give it a go. Those who know how to do that can advise you here. Otherwise, look at my demo. In the first set of articulations, 4 misbehaves. In the second set, it doesn't. That's because it is now using slot 360.

Zuill