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Post by Pat Fox » Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:44 pm

I do I enter these notes.
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Post by Pat Fox » Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:56 pm

How do I enter these notes.

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Post by miker » Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm

Pat, these are called "cross-staff" notes. You can do them either manually, or with the cross-staff plugin.

Please take the time to read the instructions, and try it out for yourself. If you still have questions afterwards, we'll try to help.

http://usermanuals-prod-finalemusic-com ... ross-staff


I didn't use the sextuplets, but you should get the idea.
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Post by Pat Fox » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:17 pm

That is what I did. Just wanted to know If I was doing it right.

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Post by miker » Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:29 pm

If it looks like mine, you did! Did you use the sextuplets in yours?

Good job!
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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:46 am

Sorry I didn't answer your post. I did sextuplets as you asked but I did not use note mover. I found it faster to just the Up arrow instead then I did you the beam tool to make the beams look better. Here is what I got.
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Post by johnmouse » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:03 am

If it's for playback only, it would work. But if you're expecting people to actually play from the score, you need to use cross staffing. It may have been "faster" for you, but as a keyboardist, I'd be sitting there wondering what that was all about, then send it back to be done correctly.

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Post by Jetcopy » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:11 pm

Pat Fox wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:46 am
Sorry I didn't answer your post. I did sextuplets as you asked but I did not use note mover. I found it faster to just the Up arrow instead then I did you the beam tool to make the beams look better. Here is what I got. 2021-08-10-3.jpg
Pat, Do what Mike suggested using cross staff notes. What you did was confusing.

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Post by miker » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm

Your method, while fine for playback, leaves the ledger lines and does not reverse the noteheads. That's why Jetcopy and johnmouse suggested you redo it.
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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:54 pm

This is for playback only. But I will do it the other way as that is the right way. And I do want to do it right. if for no one else than me. Thanks

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Post by motet » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:19 pm

Instead of up-arrow, try Alt+up-arrow. That will invoke the cross-staff plug-in, which will eliminate the ledger lines, reverse the stems, etc.

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Post by miker » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:44 pm

Pat,
If motet’s suggestion doesn’t work, contact me by private message. We’ll set up a Zoom, and I’ll try to help you.
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Post by motet » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:52 pm

(The topic header bugs me :-))

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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:11 pm

motet it was suppose to read "How do I do it" But some how the word "How" did not make it to the screen.

Does this look better. It took some research to figure out how to turn the notes back around.
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Post by miker » Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:03 pm

Much better. The only thing wrong is the first three noteheads, upper clef, second measure. Those noteheads need to be reversed. Compare them to the other notes in the upper staff. I might also work on the angle of the beams
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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:52 pm

OK done. There was a lot to change. But I am learning. One of my big problems is reading. After 3 or 4 paragraphs my mind starts to wonder then I have to go back and reread what I had read. Wasn't always like that. I was a mechanic Working on machinery in factories. I to read a lot of technical manuals. But as long as there are nice people in here who are willing to help I well keep trudging along.

I am sure that you hear lot of the same problems, but unlike some other forums that I used to go to all the time I never hear any one complain about all the dumb question that newbies ask. It is nice for a change.

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Post by motet » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:17 pm

As I said above, there's a one-keystroke alternative. Select the notes you want on the upper staff using the Selection tool
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then press Shift+Alt+up-arrow:
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This invokes a plug-in that does it all. You do need to move the 6's manually in this case:
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Post by miker » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:25 pm

Thanks, Motet. I’ll give it a,try!
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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:32 pm

I miss understood what you had said I did not highlight the notes before. I will go back and try one.

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Post by Pat Fox » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:36 pm

WOW that is so much easier. Wish I had understood you sooner. Thanks motet

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Post by motet » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:15 am

You can also open the dialog for the cross-staff plug-in from the Plug-ins menu. There, you have more options, such as setting a split point, which will move up or down only notes above or below the split point, which may be easier than manual highlighting if you have a lot of those arpeggios.

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