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I do I do it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:44 pm
by Pat Fox
I do I enter these notes.
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Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:56 pm
by Pat Fox
How do I enter these notes.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm
by miker
Pat, these are called "cross-staff" notes. You can do them either manually, or with the cross-staff plugin.

Please take the time to read the instructions, and try it out for yourself. If you still have questions afterwards, we'll try to help.

http://usermanuals-prod-finalemusic-com ... ross-staff


I didn't use the sextuplets, but you should get the idea.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:17 pm
by Pat Fox
That is what I did. Just wanted to know If I was doing it right.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:29 pm
by miker
If it looks like mine, you did! Did you use the sextuplets in yours?

Good job!

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:46 am
by Pat Fox
Sorry I didn't answer your post. I did sextuplets as you asked but I did not use note mover. I found it faster to just the Up arrow instead then I did you the beam tool to make the beams look better. Here is what I got.
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Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:03 am
by johnmouse
If it's for playback only, it would work. But if you're expecting people to actually play from the score, you need to use cross staffing. It may have been "faster" for you, but as a keyboardist, I'd be sitting there wondering what that was all about, then send it back to be done correctly.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:11 pm
by Jetcopy
Pat Fox wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:46 am
Sorry I didn't answer your post. I did sextuplets as you asked but I did not use note mover. I found it faster to just the Up arrow instead then I did you the beam tool to make the beams look better. Here is what I got. 2021-08-10-3.jpg
Pat, Do what Mike suggested using cross staff notes. What you did was confusing.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm
by miker
Your method, while fine for playback, leaves the ledger lines and does not reverse the noteheads. That's why Jetcopy and johnmouse suggested you redo it.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:54 pm
by Pat Fox
This is for playback only. But I will do it the other way as that is the right way. And I do want to do it right. if for no one else than me. Thanks

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:19 pm
by motet
Instead of up-arrow, try Alt+up-arrow. That will invoke the cross-staff plug-in, which will eliminate the ledger lines, reverse the stems, etc.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:44 pm
by miker
Pat,
If motet’s suggestion doesn’t work, contact me by private message. We’ll set up a Zoom, and I’ll try to help you.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:52 pm
by motet
(The topic header bugs me :-))

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:11 pm
by Pat Fox
motet it was suppose to read "How do I do it" But some how the word "How" did not make it to the screen.

Does this look better. It took some research to figure out how to turn the notes back around.
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Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:03 pm
by miker
Much better. The only thing wrong is the first three noteheads, upper clef, second measure. Those noteheads need to be reversed. Compare them to the other notes in the upper staff. I might also work on the angle of the beams

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:52 pm
by Pat Fox
OK done. There was a lot to change. But I am learning. One of my big problems is reading. After 3 or 4 paragraphs my mind starts to wonder then I have to go back and reread what I had read. Wasn't always like that. I was a mechanic Working on machinery in factories. I to read a lot of technical manuals. But as long as there are nice people in here who are willing to help I well keep trudging along.

I am sure that you hear lot of the same problems, but unlike some other forums that I used to go to all the time I never hear any one complain about all the dumb question that newbies ask. It is nice for a change.

Pat

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:17 pm
by motet
As I said above, there's a one-keystroke alternative. Select the notes you want on the upper staff using the Selection tool
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then press Shift+Alt+up-arrow:
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This invokes a plug-in that does it all. You do need to move the 6's manually in this case:
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Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:25 pm
by miker
Thanks, Motet. I’ll give it a,try!

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:32 pm
by Pat Fox
I miss understood what you had said I did not highlight the notes before. I will go back and try one.

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:36 pm
by Pat Fox
WOW that is so much easier. Wish I had understood you sooner. Thanks motet

Re: I do I do it.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:15 am
by motet
You can also open the dialog for the cross-staff plug-in from the Plug-ins menu. There, you have more options, such as setting a split point, which will move up or down only notes above or below the split point, which may be easier than manual highlighting if you have a lot of those arpeggios.